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> I increasingly do not recognise our government as one that is in any kind of alignment with my values as a UK citizen or even as just a decent human being. e

• tailspin2019 3y ago
  I agree. I'm disappointed in particular by Labour's approach to this too. Similarly they (Labour) are not taking a strong enough position on honestly recognising the state of Brexit because they don't want to alienate their potential pro-brexit voters, nor are they taking a strong stand on a number of other policies which I think they should be. The conservatives have lurched so far right that I can't help but feel that Labour is having to move in that direction too just to have a fighting chance of winning the next election. But this makes them not an effective enough opposition at the moment. Their strategy is clearly working - see uptick in pro-brexit votes in recent local elections - but I'm not sure at what cost... So overall, personally, I'm just extremely disillusioned with all political parties right now. We have to recognise that we brought this on ourselves, collectively - such is the nature of democracy - but that doesn't help alleviate my current sense of despair!
  • kmlx 3y ago
    labour doesn't surprise me one bit. but i am surprised by the liberal democrats. i don't really understand why they keep calling themselves "liberal" when for the past years they have been anything but liberal.
    • effie 3y ago
      > However, you should know that this [liberal democracy] has precisely nothing to do with the Liberal Democrats in the UK. The Liberal Democrats are so named because they're the result of a merger between the Liberal Party and the Social Democratic Party. The best combination of the names was "Liberal Democrats." -- cpast https://politics.stackexchange.com/a/7812 https://politics.stackexchange.com/a/7812
    • mrbungie 3y ago
      That's a meme in politics, the words in party names have nothing to do with the ideas they commonly represent. Names in this space just work according to the "laws" of marketing.
    • tremon 3y ago
      The term liberal is only a magnitude, it's not a vector. In common parlance, people understand it to mean social liberalism, i.e. a proponent of personal freedoms; but in most parties, it's much more likely to refer to economic liberalism, i.e. laissez-faire market policies. That said, I don't know enough about the UK's political parties to know along what axis the Lib Dems consider themselves to be "liberal".
  • blibble 3y ago
    > I agree. I'm disappointed in particular by Labour's approach to this too. why would you expect labour to be better? they are more authoratitian than the Tories they brought in the Identity Register, the Terrorism Act (90 day detention without charge), the RIP Act (forced decryption), attempted to remove the right to trial by jury and the defence of double jeopardy along with countless more
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• daleharvey 3y ago
  > every single political party in the UK is either for this law The SNP motioned to have it repealed, they are still, sadly, a party in the UK.
• HPsquared 3y ago
  "It's a big club and you ain't in it"