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> However, it is outside the realm of acceptable discourse for a manager to say "this is terrible work." Why? And how is it possible for Americans to build any

> However, it is outside the realm of acceptable discourse for a manager to say "this is terrible work." Why? And how is it possible for Americans to build anything while having that kind of a constraint?

pc86 3y ago
Because it's not constructive.
- eimrine 3y ago
  How about "This is a terrible work because of ..." - is this a not constructive way as well?
  - kuhzaam 3y ago
    IMO everyone produces some terrible work early in their careers. It is part of the learning/growth process. I wouldn't want to work for a manager who told me "This is terrible", nor would I dream of saying that to an employee of mine, it would unnecessarily break their spirit. I think that would cultivate the type of environment where people are afraid to voice their opinion for fear of being embarrassed, etc.
  - numbsafari 3y ago
    Because it’s a waste of time to say it. It’s entirely emotional and subjective and not helpful. Now, instead of listening to you and giving you a response, this person is in some kind of an internal spiral. They will either push back, equally emotionally, or they’ll shut down. It’s a rare bird who will take that kind of feedback in stride. Even if you find one of those, you’ve most likely lost personal capita with them in the process. Stick to the facts and learn to manage your emotional feedback. I came up in these kind of “blunt” cultures, and it was a terrible waste of time and energy, and it took a long time to unlearn these patterns of behavior.
n4r9 3y ago
"Terrible" is often emotionally laden and unprofessional. Better to simply specify the ways in which it fails to meet general standards or the stated requirements.
nemo 3y ago
"this is terrible work" is a childish outburst, not a meaningful criticism that could be used to improve anything. The people engaging in that kind of behavior are the ones who sabotage building things.

pc86 3y ago

Because it's not constructive.

eimrine 3y ago
How about "This is a terrible work because of ..." - is this a not constructive way as well?
- kuhzaam 3y ago
  IMO everyone produces some terrible work early in their careers. It is part of the learning/growth process. I wouldn't want to work for a manager who told me "This is terrible", nor would I dream of saying that to an employee of mine, it would unnecessarily break their spirit. I think that would cultivate the type of environment where people are afraid to voice their opinion for fear of being embarrassed, etc.
- numbsafari 3y ago
  Because it’s a waste of time to say it. It’s entirely emotional and subjective and not helpful. Now, instead of listening to you and giving you a response, this person is in some kind of an internal spiral. They will either push back, equally emotionally, or they’ll shut down. It’s a rare bird who will take that kind of feedback in stride. Even if you find one of those, you’ve most likely lost personal capita with them in the process. Stick to the facts and learn to manage your emotional feedback. I came up in these kind of “blunt” cultures, and it was a terrible waste of time and energy, and it took a long time to unlearn these patterns of behavior.

n4r9 3y ago

"Terrible" is often emotionally laden and unprofessional. Better to simply specify the ways in which it fails to meet general standards or the stated requirements.

nemo 3y ago

"this is terrible work" is a childish outburst, not a meaningful criticism that could be used to improve anything. The people engaging in that kind of behavior are the ones who sabotage building things.