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Naomi is fairly unusual, both surnames have the same number of syllables, and both rose to fame around the same period, in the early '90s. It's not true that Wo
by toyg 3y ago
Naomi is fairly unusual, both surnames have the same number of syllables, and both rose to fame around the same period, in the early '90s. It's not true that Wolf "became famous for being unhinged on Twitter"; she used to be considered a leftwing feminist and worked with Bill Clinton, while Klein was a radical anti-corporation leftist active in anti-G8 circles, so they were broadly "on the same side" from a mainstream perspective (although I'm sure Klein, as the most radical of the two, would strongly challenge that). It's very very easy to mistake them; I know I've been knowing their work for 30 years and still occasionally mix them up.
Wolf seems to have drifted right only fairly recently - although I'm sure she would say that it's the Overton window around her that moved instead.
- amadeuspagel 3y ago> Wolf seems to have drifted right only fairly recently - although I'm sure she would say that it's the Overton window around her that moved instead. That's totally true. Conspiracy theories used to be a left-wing thing and are now a right-wing thing. Klein went from writing conspiracy theories to writing about them, while Wolf stayed course.
- krapp 3y agoConspiracy theories have always been a right-wing thing as well. What happened is that right-wing conspiracy theories were normalized, while left-wing conspiracy theories remained stigmatized. Also some (like anti-vaxx, traditionally a leftist thing) shifted polarity.
- toyg 3y ago> while left-wing conspiracy theories remained stigmatized I don't think that's true. CIA involvement in South America or Italy, for example, used to be a leftist conspiracy theory; and now it is documented history. In fact, I'd argue that the Left effectively ran out of conspiracy theories, as most of them were proven true. Once the Berlin Wall came down, a lot of "pro-capitalists" activity became overt and acceptable, often even initiated by leftist governments, and historical actors came out of the wood to describe what really happened - the Cold War was over and winners didn't have to be ashamed of the extreme measures they took to get there. The only conspiracy left to the left (eh) was basically Echelon and internet surveillance; Snowden confirmed that too, so now there is nothing.
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