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False dichotomy! There can be structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences and also do

False dichotomy! There can be structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences and also don't resort to blaming an imagined cabal of lizard-men.

krapp 3y ago
"structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences" aren't necessarily conspiracies. The mere confluence of interests and incentives does not form a conspiracy. The premise of replacement theory is that "the elites" are willfully and actively conspiring to replace white people, culturally and politically, with non-whites and eventually render the white race extinct. That they're doing it on purpose. Meeting in dark, smoke-filled rooms and planning it out. Regardless, even in the absence of an active and willfull conspiracy, interpreting socioeconomic trends through the lens of race is still racist. Being concerned that globalism and immigration suppresses "native" wages isn't racist - but people need to learn in that case that what they hate isn't immigrants, but capitalism, because that's just efficient markets doing exactly what they're supposed to do. Being concerned that globalism and immigration suppressing "native" wages is an effort to commit white genocide and destroy white culture is what makes it racist.
- thr-nrg 3y ago
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  - dang 3y ago
    We've banned this account for repeatedly posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments. Could you please stop creating accounts to do this with? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, and will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html (This is not a response to this post in particular but to a whole bunch of the posts you've made with this account.)
Timon3 3y ago
> False dichotomy! There can be structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences and also don't resort to blaming an imagined cabal of lizard-men. What dichotomy am I proposing? I simply said that there is not one evil group conspiring against white people. It's possible that there are multiple groups with nefarious intent (e.g. to suppress wages, or to extract more money from the population), but surely we can all agree that the idea of "The great replacement" is ludicrous? Did this site drift so far to the right that even this statement is now controversial?!

krapp 3y ago

"structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences" aren't necessarily conspiracies. The mere confluence of interests and incentives does not form a conspiracy. The premise of replacement theory is that "the elites" are willfully and actively conspiring to replace white people, culturally and politically, with non-whites and eventually render the white race extinct. That they're doing it on purpose. Meeting in dark, smoke-filled rooms and planning it out. Regardless, even in the absence of an active and willfull conspiracy, interpreting socioeconomic trends through the lens of race is still racist. Being concerned that globalism and immigration suppresses "native" wages isn't racist - but people need to learn in that case that what they hate isn't immigrants, but capitalism, because that's just efficient markets doing exactly what they're supposed to do. Being concerned that globalism and immigration suppressing "native" wages is an effort to commit white genocide and destroy white culture is what makes it racist.

thr-nrg 3y ago
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- dang 3y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments. Could you please stop creating accounts to do this with? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, and will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html (This is not a response to this post in particular but to a whole bunch of the posts you've made with this account.)

Timon3 3y ago

> False dichotomy! There can be structural explanations for sociological phenomena that don't put things down to aggregates of individual preferences and also don't resort to blaming an imagined cabal of lizard-men. What dichotomy am I proposing? I simply said that there is not one evil group conspiring against white people. It's possible that there are multiple groups with nefarious intent (e.g. to suppress wages, or to extract more money from the population), but surely we can all agree that the idea of "The great replacement" is ludicrous? Did this site drift so far to the right that even this statement is now controversial?!