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Likewise, please don't use Cinebench. It's a poor general purpose CPU benchmark that first favored Zen architecture (many slow cores) and now favors Intel's Rap

Likewise, please don't use Cinebench. It's a poor general purpose CPU benchmark that first favored Zen architecture (many slow cores) and now favors Intel's Raptor Lake. It's hand optimized for x86 instructions and is highly parallel, which is not how most applications run. Use Geekbench instead of Cinebench or Userbenchmark.

Dalewyn 3y ago
>It's a poor general purpose CPU benchmark that first favored Zen architecture (many slow cores) and now favors Intel's Raptor Lake. Would you advise the same if the colors were reversed? The majority of people here are AMD fanbois, so it's sometimes hard to discern whether something is rooted in objectivity or subjectivity.
- senttoschool 3y ago
  If you're an AMD fanboy, you'd only care about Cinebench despite the fact that its results do not correlate with gaming or other common applications such as browsing, Excel, video editing, etc. There's a reason why x86 CPU users will only want to compare Apple Silicon using Cinebench. It's because Cinebench uses Intel Embree, which is hand optimized for x86 instructions. It's like testing Ryzen or Core CPUs on software optimized for ARM instructions, and then making a conclusion on how fast they are for x86 applications. Use Geekbench.
  - Dalewyn 3y ago
    Ideally you would run a suite of various benchmarks and workloads and pass judgment on the overall results, rather than basing it on just one specific test or another. They're all going to be biased one way or another. You also didn't answer my question: Would you likewise advise against Cinebench if the colors were reversed? As it is, you're advising against Cinebench just because it favors Intel.
    - senttoschool 3y ago
      I’m advising against cinebench for any general purpose CPU testing. Far too many people, YouTubers, and hardware websites draw conclusion about the speed of the CPU and perf per watt using only Cinebench.
      - Dalewyn 3y ago
        I can drink to that. No singular test is going to give a complete picture.
skavi 3y ago
Geekbench generally lines up with SPEC, the industry standard. (at least for consumer stuff)

Dalewyn 3y ago

>It's a poor general purpose CPU benchmark that first favored Zen architecture (many slow cores) and now favors Intel's Raptor Lake. Would you advise the same if the colors were reversed? The majority of people here are AMD fanbois, so it's sometimes hard to discern whether something is rooted in objectivity or subjectivity.

senttoschool 3y ago
If you're an AMD fanboy, you'd only care about Cinebench despite the fact that its results do not correlate with gaming or other common applications such as browsing, Excel, video editing, etc. There's a reason why x86 CPU users will only want to compare Apple Silicon using Cinebench. It's because Cinebench uses Intel Embree, which is hand optimized for x86 instructions. It's like testing Ryzen or Core CPUs on software optimized for ARM instructions, and then making a conclusion on how fast they are for x86 applications. Use Geekbench.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  Ideally you would run a suite of various benchmarks and workloads and pass judgment on the overall results, rather than basing it on just one specific test or another. They're all going to be biased one way or another. You also didn't answer my question: Would you likewise advise against Cinebench if the colors were reversed? As it is, you're advising against Cinebench just because it favors Intel.
  - senttoschool 3y ago
    I’m advising against cinebench for any general purpose CPU testing. Far too many people, YouTubers, and hardware websites draw conclusion about the speed of the CPU and perf per watt using only Cinebench.
    - Dalewyn 3y ago
      I can drink to that. No singular test is going to give a complete picture.

skavi 3y ago

Geekbench generally lines up with SPEC, the industry standard. (at least for consumer stuff)