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> I think Apple wouldn't ship this if it wasn't a very, very good AR headset For heaven’s sake, Apple has a laundry list filled history of releasing half baked

> I think Apple wouldn't ship this if it wasn't a very, very good AR headset For heaven’s sake, Apple has a laundry list filled history of releasing half baked and subpar products - both hardware and software - and has been reliably consistent at doing that. I mean it’s just that its “target audience” sets their peak of standard what Apple expects them to, or to just what Apple offers. I have been using their AirPod Pro 2 and I have also tried one by Jabra and Samsung (along with XM4 and 700 - I own(ed) these two) and my goodness the noise cancellation and call quality, in even slight noise, is atrocious. That’s just one example — don’t even get me started on their software and services suite.

furyofantares 3y ago
It's not that I think they've never released a half baked or subpar product - they clearly have. It's just that it would be a spectacular failure to read the room if it's just a better Oculus Quest for a massive multiplier of the price. If they ship a $3000 headset into what has proven to be a niche market, then at the very least I feel they MUST feel it's a different ballgame than Oculus Quest. It's not $2500 of Apple Tax to capitalize on a small market. Ability to read and work in VR is a potential category shift, as is the ability to see your real-world surroundings clearly, and these are things plausibly in reach of Apple's technical capabilities. So my speculation is if they ship at $3000 headset it'll be because they think they've achieved this and that it's worth the very obvious problems any strapped-to-your-face headset has.
- 8n4vidtmkvmk 3y ago
  I would like to see it compared to the Pimax Crystal which starts at $1600. Has the battery pack and very good optics. Not sure how they're going to beat folks that have been in the game for years but I guess we'll see. I think it's another Apple tax but they're going to compare to oculus/meta or Microsoft or Sony instead of the niche but high end headsets.

furyofantares 3y ago

It's not that I think they've never released a half baked or subpar product - they clearly have. It's just that it would be a spectacular failure to read the room if it's just a better Oculus Quest for a massive multiplier of the price. If they ship a $3000 headset into what has proven to be a niche market, then at the very least I feel they MUST feel it's a different ballgame than Oculus Quest. It's not $2500 of Apple Tax to capitalize on a small market. Ability to read and work in VR is a potential category shift, as is the ability to see your real-world surroundings clearly, and these are things plausibly in reach of Apple's technical capabilities. So my speculation is if they ship at $3000 headset it'll be because they think they've achieved this and that it's worth the very obvious problems any strapped-to-your-face headset has.

8n4vidtmkvmk 3y ago
I would like to see it compared to the Pimax Crystal which starts at $1600. Has the battery pack and very good optics. Not sure how they're going to beat folks that have been in the game for years but I guess we'll see. I think it's another Apple tax but they're going to compare to oculus/meta or Microsoft or Sony instead of the niche but high end headsets.