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PSVR2 is only $550 for an amazing headset and people still complain about the price.

by ok_dad 3y ago

Dalewyn 3y ago
I'd pay $200 tops for a VR headset (not that I'd buy one even then...), given how jank the experience is, how much money I would spend to power and use the bloody thing anyway, and how quickly it will become antiquated. Anything more for something that is essentially a short-lived toy is a fool's errand. Fool in this case meaning someone with more money than they know what to do with. I'd get better value from a Louis Vuitton handbag.
- cubefox 3y ago
  I wouldn't say that. A For example, I think a 300 USD standalone gaming console could be the next Game Boy, or the next Switch, in terms of sales numbers. The benfit/price ratio just has to be good enough and it could really take off. Even with fairly primitive graphics.
  - Dalewyn 3y ago
    $300~500 bucks for a game console sounds reasonable to me, downright cheap even since a gaming desktop or laptop would easily go into the 4 digits. But with regards to VR headsets? Even $200 sounds too expensive if I were to be brutally honest, but I surmise going even lower would mean whoever makes the bloody thing won't even be able to cover the cost of materials so I'll compromise.
    - cubefox 3y ago
      I meant a game console that is simultaneously a standalone VR headset. A Nintendo Quest basically. With exclusive Mario games.
  - coffeebeqn 3y ago
    There is the Quest 2 at that price. The problem is that it’s at least right now just not a great gaming platform. I played the crown jewel - half life alyx (by connecting to a gaming pc that can run it), and it was fine but quite awkward. The default movement scheme is one where you teleport around the room because walking is too nauseating I guess.
    - judge2020 3y ago
      The thing with locomotion is that you don't actually have infinite space to walk - if you did, or if a 99.9% perfect multi-directional treadmill was available, then it wouldn't be that big of a deal to just walk throughout the entire level. So developers have to offer some other way to navigate levels and mostly-open environments, that either being smooth locomotion (hold a joystick in the direction you want to walk/are facing) or teleportation.
      - crooked-v 3y ago
        The better option, though it's very rarely offered, would be arm-swinging that moves you along in the direction you're looking like a cartoon character in an animation loop. Completely serious about that - you can look at the success of Gorilla Tag, where all motion is based on you pulling and pushing yourself around with your arms, and despite being a frenetic game with constant motion, motion-sickness issues are nigh nonexistent.
        ok_dad 3y ago
        You can do this with the new PSVR2 Horizon game but I just use the sticks after I got used to the motion and don’t get sick now. That game already requires lots of arm motion for climbing though, so the arm wiggling animation stuff tired me out.
- ok_dad 3y ago
  PSVR2 has already paid for itself for me, I’ve used it everyday since launch. Guess I’m just a fool with more money than brains!
cubefox 3y ago
Yeah. I think Carmack said even the Quest was still too expensive. The PSVR2 has the additional problem that it requires a PS5. It's not a standalone system. That's like a Game Boy for which you need to own an NES. Or like a Wii U console, where the tablet controller wasn't a standalone system, and which flopped, in contrast to the Switch.
- crooked-v 3y ago
  The Wii U had the bigger issue that Nintendo never actually made it clear to a lot of people that it was even a new console rather than some kind of weird tablet add-on to an existing Wii.
  - 8n4vidtmkvmk 3y ago
    It really was poor marketing. A simple "Wii 2" would have done better. I'm also confused about "switch OLED". Is it just a nicer screen or more than that?
    - crooked-v 3y ago
      > I'm also confused about "switch OLED". Is it just a nicer screen or more than that? Upgraded screen, more battery and storage, and identical everything else.

PSVR2 is only $550 for an amazing headset and people still complain about the price.

by ok_dad 3y ago

PSVR2 is only $550 for an amazing headset and people still complain about the price.

I'd pay $200 tops for a VR headset (not that I'd buy one even then...), given how jank the experience is, how much money I would spend to power and use the bloody thing anyway, and how quickly it will become antiquated. Anything more for something that is essentially a short-lived toy is a fool's errand. Fool in this case meaning someone with more money than they know what to do with. I'd get better value from a Louis Vuitton handbag.

cubefox 3y ago
I wouldn't say that. A For example, I think a 300 USD standalone gaming console could be the next Game Boy, or the next Switch, in terms of sales numbers. The benfit/price ratio just has to be good enough and it could really take off. Even with fairly primitive graphics.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  $300~500 bucks for a game console sounds reasonable to me, downright cheap even since a gaming desktop or laptop would easily go into the 4 digits. But with regards to VR headsets? Even $200 sounds too expensive if I were to be brutally honest, but I surmise going even lower would mean whoever makes the bloody thing won't even be able to cover the cost of materials so I'll compromise.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    I meant a game console that is simultaneously a standalone VR headset. A Nintendo Quest basically. With exclusive Mario games.
- coffeebeqn 3y ago
  There is the Quest 2 at that price. The problem is that it’s at least right now just not a great gaming platform. I played the crown jewel - half life alyx (by connecting to a gaming pc that can run it), and it was fine but quite awkward. The default movement scheme is one where you teleport around the room because walking is too nauseating I guess.
  - judge2020 3y ago
    The thing with locomotion is that you don't actually have infinite space to walk - if you did, or if a 99.9% perfect multi-directional treadmill was available, then it wouldn't be that big of a deal to just walk throughout the entire level. So developers have to offer some other way to navigate levels and mostly-open environments, that either being smooth locomotion (hold a joystick in the direction you want to walk/are facing) or teleportation.
    - crooked-v 3y ago
      The better option, though it's very rarely offered, would be arm-swinging that moves you along in the direction you're looking like a cartoon character in an animation loop. Completely serious about that - you can look at the success of Gorilla Tag, where all motion is based on you pulling and pushing yourself around with your arms, and despite being a frenetic game with constant motion, motion-sickness issues are nigh nonexistent.
      - ok_dad 3y ago
        You can do this with the new PSVR2 Horizon game but I just use the sticks after I got used to the motion and don’t get sick now. That game already requires lots of arm motion for climbing though, so the arm wiggling animation stuff tired me out.
ok_dad 3y ago
PSVR2 has already paid for itself for me, I’ve used it everyday since launch. Guess I’m just a fool with more money than brains!

cubefox 3y ago

Yeah. I think Carmack said even the Quest was still too expensive. The PSVR2 has the additional problem that it requires a PS5. It's not a standalone system. That's like a Game Boy for which you need to own an NES. Or like a Wii U console, where the tablet controller wasn't a standalone system, and which flopped, in contrast to the Switch.

crooked-v 3y ago
The Wii U had the bigger issue that Nintendo never actually made it clear to a lot of people that it was even a new console rather than some kind of weird tablet add-on to an existing Wii.
- 8n4vidtmkvmk 3y ago
  It really was poor marketing. A simple "Wii 2" would have done better. I'm also confused about "switch OLED". Is it just a nicer screen or more than that?
  - crooked-v 3y ago
    > I'm also confused about "switch OLED". Is it just a nicer screen or more than that? Upgraded screen, more battery and storage, and identical everything else.