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> Blizzard actually provided significant help in creating “Make Love, Not Warcraft” which shows just what transformative reuse can look like. Actually, it show

> Blizzard actually provided significant help in creating “Make Love, Not Warcraft” which shows just what transformative reuse can look like. Actually, it shows how copyright owners can cooperate when a third party's use comports with their interests. If, however, South Park had appropriated imagery, music, etc., from Blizzard without permission, then that may have been copyright infringement outside the realm of fair use. (Note: South Park probably still could have parodied World of Warcraft, albeit without using any of Blizzard's materials.)

Retric 3y ago
The point was Blizzard’s willingness is a sign of the transformative nature of the copying. "Weird Al" Yankovic similarly seeks permission even if it might not be needed, but he also regularly receives it. By comparison it’s relatively rare for say k-pop stars to either seek or revive permission from other k-pop stars.
- zdragnar 3y ago
  Bringing up Weird Al is doubly interesting, because he asked for permission from both the recording company and Coolio to parody Gangsta's Paradise. Though the recording company agreed, Coolio refused permission. I would have sworn that I'd heard Weird Al had been misinformed and believed that he did, in fact, receive permission, but I'm not seeing any evidence of that. Either way, the most Coolio could do is write a diss track, though he later came to regret not supporting it from the beginning. All of this is made even more ironic since Gangsta's Paradise is itself a very obvious reworking of Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise
  - somenameforme 3y ago
    I just listened to Pastime Paradise. That's wild man. I assume Coolio was required to get permission for that, because, that's a VERY obvious reworking. I never understand music IP law, like how Queen was able to sue Vanilla ice because of one 7 note chord in Ice Ice Baby: Queen, Under Pressure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I Vanilla Ice, Ice Ice Baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE Yeah those 7 notes are identical, but that's a pretty substantial reworking of everything else.
- ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
  >even if it might not be needed Most of his songs are not commenting on the original so permission is definitely needed. "Smells like Nirvana" and "Perform this way" are making fun of the original songs, "Amish Paradise" could be argued either way.

Retric 3y ago

The point was Blizzard’s willingness is a sign of the transformative nature of the copying. "Weird Al" Yankovic similarly seeks permission even if it might not be needed, but he also regularly receives it. By comparison it’s relatively rare for say k-pop stars to either seek or revive permission from other k-pop stars.

zdragnar 3y ago
Bringing up Weird Al is doubly interesting, because he asked for permission from both the recording company and Coolio to parody Gangsta's Paradise. Though the recording company agreed, Coolio refused permission. I would have sworn that I'd heard Weird Al had been misinformed and believed that he did, in fact, receive permission, but I'm not seeing any evidence of that. Either way, the most Coolio could do is write a diss track, though he later came to regret not supporting it from the beginning. All of this is made even more ironic since Gangsta's Paradise is itself a very obvious reworking of Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise
- somenameforme 3y ago
  I just listened to Pastime Paradise. That's wild man. I assume Coolio was required to get permission for that, because, that's a VERY obvious reworking. I never understand music IP law, like how Queen was able to sue Vanilla ice because of one 7 note chord in Ice Ice Baby: Queen, Under Pressure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I Vanilla Ice, Ice Ice Baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE Yeah those 7 notes are identical, but that's a pretty substantial reworking of everything else.
ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
>even if it might not be needed Most of his songs are not commenting on the original so permission is definitely needed. "Smells like Nirvana" and "Perform this way" are making fun of the original songs, "Amish Paradise" could be argued either way.