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I agree, though I wouldn't call it society. I'd call it "economy and policy". The USA has no safety nets. Getting sick could mean going bankrupt if you don't h

by aylmao 3y ago

I agree, though I wouldn't call it society. I'd call it "economy and policy". The USA has no safety nets. Getting sick could mean going bankrupt if you don't have a job with healthcare. With rents as high as they are in big cities, not having a job quickly drains your bank account. As you said, you need two incomes now. If you have a family, you might live in the suburbs which makes things worse. Suburbs can often be loneliness machines. Everyone is so spread-out, there's nothing to do except going to someone else's house, and you have to drive to get anywhere. I don't want people in my house. I want to meet them at a café, a bar, or a restaurant, casually. "Hey, this thing happened at work, let's chat about it over some drinks" shouldn't involve picking whose house we're meeting at, or driving, or a $XX 20 minute + 10 min wait-time Uber, and another one back.

giantg2 3y ago
'I'd call it "economy and policy".' Is there really a difference? In any first world country, society seems to be driven by this, regardless of the safety nets. "Everyone is so spread-out, there's nothing to do except going to someone else's house, and you have to drive to get anywhere." This is highly variable. I've lived on suburbs were there were thing to do. It wasn't that spread out, so I could bike places. "I don't want people in my house." Perhaps this is part of the problem. "shouldn't involve picking whose house we're meeting at, or driving, or a $XX 20 minute + 10 min wait-time Uber," I think you may be confusing rural for suburb. 20 minutes to get to a bar/cafe/restaurant is not a typical suburban experience.
revolvingocelot 3y ago
>I want to meet them at a café, a bar, or a restaurant, casually You're talking about the sociological concept of the "third place" [0] -- not home and not work, but a hangout elsewhere. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place

by aylmao 3y ago

giantg2 3y ago

'I'd call it "economy and policy".' Is there really a difference? In any first world country, society seems to be driven by this, regardless of the safety nets. "Everyone is so spread-out, there's nothing to do except going to someone else's house, and you have to drive to get anywhere." This is highly variable. I've lived on suburbs were there were thing to do. It wasn't that spread out, so I could bike places. "I don't want people in my house." Perhaps this is part of the problem. "shouldn't involve picking whose house we're meeting at, or driving, or a $XX 20 minute + 10 min wait-time Uber," I think you may be confusing rural for suburb. 20 minutes to get to a bar/cafe/restaurant is not a typical suburban experience.

revolvingocelot 3y ago

>I want to meet them at a café, a bar, or a restaurant, casually You're talking about the sociological concept of the "third place" [0] -- not home and not work, but a hangout elsewhere. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place