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If I am going to spend $3000 on a VR headset, I don't really want to sweat all over it... Also, the sort of people who are going to work out consistently don't

If I am going to spend $3000 on a VR headset, I don't really want to sweat all over it... Also, the sort of people who are going to work out consistently don't need a headset to work out. Or any other tech. They just do it. I know you're not implying this in your comment, but if anyone thinks you are going to take someone who is sedate, strap on a cool headset and give them some sort of virtual experience that will finally motivate them to work out consistently...I'll take the other side of that bet every day...

crooked-v 3y ago
The key to losing weight with VR for the average person isn't in exercise-specific apps, it's in replacing sitting video game time with something just as engaging but that has you standing, walking in circles, crouching, and waving your arms around for a few hours instead. You're obviously not going to get buff from it, but it can add up fast for an otherwise sedentary person.
- ProfessorLayton 3y ago
  While exercise is great and should be done regardless, the key to losing weight is almost entirely in the kitchen.
- astrange 3y ago
  You don't lose weight via exercise, you lose it via diet. Exercise is sometimes found counterproductive in empirical studies because it makes you less compliant with your diet, which is much more important.
  - asdff 3y ago
    You still need to be mostly active vs sedentary in order to be healthy. We didn't evolve to sit in front of a monitor.
    - astrange 3y ago
      This is true, which is why I didn't say that.
  - mensetmanusman 3y ago
    No, you lose it by not being sedentary.
    - astrange 3y ago
      It's diet. Exercise only interventions are ineffective. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212267214010557 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221226721... Anyway, the modern answer is Ozempic.
      - steve_adams_86 3y ago
        It seems exceedingly unlikely that Ozempic will compare positively to regular movement and a healthy diet in the longer term. Even our most prized pharmaceuticals seem like hacks compared to behaviour-based solutions.
        astrange 3y ago
        It actually seems plausible since it has the side effect of stopping addictions and improving your self-control! https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/05/ozempic-addictive-behavior-drinking-smoking/674098/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/05/ozempic-a... But I don't think behavior and diet are necessarily the cause; there's some room for gut bacteria (which control your behavior anyway) and environmental pollutants.

crooked-v 3y ago

The key to losing weight with VR for the average person isn't in exercise-specific apps, it's in replacing sitting video game time with something just as engaging but that has you standing, walking in circles, crouching, and waving your arms around for a few hours instead. You're obviously not going to get buff from it, but it can add up fast for an otherwise sedentary person.

ProfessorLayton 3y ago
While exercise is great and should be done regardless, the key to losing weight is almost entirely in the kitchen.
astrange 3y ago
You don't lose weight via exercise, you lose it via diet. Exercise is sometimes found counterproductive in empirical studies because it makes you less compliant with your diet, which is much more important.
- asdff 3y ago
  You still need to be mostly active vs sedentary in order to be healthy. We didn't evolve to sit in front of a monitor.
  - astrange 3y ago
    This is true, which is why I didn't say that.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  No, you lose it by not being sedentary.
  - astrange 3y ago
    It's diet. Exercise only interventions are ineffective. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212267214010557 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221226721... Anyway, the modern answer is Ozempic.
    - steve_adams_86 3y ago
      It seems exceedingly unlikely that Ozempic will compare positively to regular movement and a healthy diet in the longer term. Even our most prized pharmaceuticals seem like hacks compared to behaviour-based solutions.
      - astrange 3y ago
        It actually seems plausible since it has the side effect of stopping addictions and improving your self-control! https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/05/ozempic-addictive-behavior-drinking-smoking/674098/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/05/ozempic-a... But I don't think behavior and diet are necessarily the cause; there's some room for gut bacteria (which control your behavior anyway) and environmental pollutants.