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This marketing-driven distinction is disappointing to me. I switched to Pixelmator Pro not because it has layers but because it was an affordable image editor.

This marketing-driven distinction is disappointing to me. I switched to Pixelmator Pro not because it has layers but because it was an affordable image editor. I highly doubt anyone would use Pixelmator Pro if it didn't have single image editing, which is now apparently the defining distinction between Pixelmator Pro and Photomator. Pixelmator Pro was introducing great AI-driven single image editing tools for years (e.g. background removal and upscaling), so re-positioning it in relation to Photomator is bs.

throwaway675309 3y ago
agree, I feel like they're diluting the core of their product which should be a solid competitor to Photoshop. I've used pixelmator pro for years but photomator feels like a distraction that will hamper their development efforts to continue to improve it. They are STILL missing a means to quickly adjust the softness and/or size of all of their tools using the scroll wheel.
Brendinooo 3y ago
I'm not sure what you mean. These are meant to be analogues to Photoshop and Lightroom, which also have a ton of overlap in features. In terms of photo editing, there's not a lot that Lightroom can do that can't be done in Photoshop (at least in my experience). But the point of Lightroom, relative to Photoshop, is that it makes it a lot easier to work with large groups of photos. So yeah, single image editing vs batch image editing is a seemingly small but extremely important distinction.
- palmer_fox 3y ago
  Sure, batch editing is cool - but that seems like a small feature to add to the existing app, rather than a massive feature that requires a new app. Moving forward, what AI-driven features will be added to Photomator vs Pixelmator Pro? I bet that it's not going to be batch-specific. They are going to start adding new single image editing features to Photomator and _not_ to Pixelmator Pro. Lightroom vs Photoshop is one way to think about apps. But not the only way.
  - Brendinooo 3y ago
    >Lightroom vs Photoshop is one way to think about apps. But not the only way. Perhaps. But those two products are successful for a reason, and I think there's an untapped market of people who like these two products but 1) don't want to pay $40/month or whatever the Creative Cloud license is, 2) might not like Adobe as a company, and 3) want a more modern, OS-specific solution that doesn't have decades of technical debt.

throwaway675309 3y ago

agree, I feel like they're diluting the core of their product which should be a solid competitor to Photoshop. I've used pixelmator pro for years but photomator feels like a distraction that will hamper their development efforts to continue to improve it. They are STILL missing a means to quickly adjust the softness and/or size of all of their tools using the scroll wheel.

Brendinooo 3y ago

I'm not sure what you mean. These are meant to be analogues to Photoshop and Lightroom, which also have a ton of overlap in features. In terms of photo editing, there's not a lot that Lightroom can do that can't be done in Photoshop (at least in my experience). But the point of Lightroom, relative to Photoshop, is that it makes it a lot easier to work with large groups of photos. So yeah, single image editing vs batch image editing is a seemingly small but extremely important distinction.

palmer_fox 3y ago
Sure, batch editing is cool - but that seems like a small feature to add to the existing app, rather than a massive feature that requires a new app. Moving forward, what AI-driven features will be added to Photomator vs Pixelmator Pro? I bet that it's not going to be batch-specific. They are going to start adding new single image editing features to Photomator and _not_ to Pixelmator Pro. Lightroom vs Photoshop is one way to think about apps. But not the only way.
- Brendinooo 3y ago
  >Lightroom vs Photoshop is one way to think about apps. But not the only way. Perhaps. But those two products are successful for a reason, and I think there's an untapped market of people who like these two products but 1) don't want to pay $40/month or whatever the Creative Cloud license is, 2) might not like Adobe as a company, and 3) want a more modern, OS-specific solution that doesn't have decades of technical debt.