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are we going to now invent a programming language that communicates with LLMs? I find that funny

candiddevmike 3y ago
I'm not an LLM, but I am a native English speaker and English is pretty awful for conveying information succinctly. The lengths you must go with prompts to ensure you're getting the right response is extremely similar to the lengths you go to when delegating something to someone or describing requirements to a project. I wonder if whatever language we end up using to "converse" with LLMs would have value within an organization/email/Jira.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > I’m not an LLM, but English is already pretty awful for conveying information succinctly. The lengths you must go with prompts to ensure you’re getting the right response is extremely similar to the lengths you go to when delegating something to someone or describing requirements to a project. I wonder if whatever language we end up using to “converse” with LLMs would have value within an organization/email/Jira. People already adopt context-specific specialized languages in contexts like that for clarity, what will probably happen is that LLMs will get better at adapting or being adapted to specific contexts.
- bcrosby95 3y ago
  I prefix my longer prompts with glossaries. It lets me write more succinctly.
  - redblacktree 3y ago
    I would love an example of this.
    - bcrosby95 3y ago
      It's pretty simple, I just add a glossary of terms at the top. When asking for creative but well-structured output that requires specific definitions of certain words to be useful, I've found it works best to use words for your terms that don't actually exist. Otherwise it seems to focus a bit more on the broader word more than it should rather than your definition, especially if you use it a lot.
- Qweiuu 3y ago
  I'm normally the type of Google person with doing minus or using other tags. I totally gave that up with chatgpt and the magic of it is that it understands it so so we'll. Sometimes I also switch to German in the middle of a sentence or use very vague words to describe something if the word is missing in my head.
rytill 3y ago
Why do you find that funny?
- ipaddr 3y ago
  That's chatgpt main function. What if we introduced a language that could be converted to another language that uses tool to speak to chatgpt.
seydor 3y ago
We can then train an LLM to generate it though
gajnadsgjoas 3y ago
Check out https://lmql.ai/ https://lmql.ai/
- behnamoh 3y ago
  Can someone please compare guidance with lmql? I don’t wanna learn multiple programming languages to handle LLMs as that defeats the whole point.
Decabytes 3y ago
I've been thinking about this a lot recently. Communicating with LLMs using Lobjan for less ambiguity in text, or some LLM optimized language that can inject the most amount of meaning per token. Or writing in a AI Optimized Programming Language that is easier for it to parse and reason about
awwaiid 3y ago
JS > asm.js > wasm all over again

I'm not an LLM, but I am a native English speaker and English is pretty awful for conveying information succinctly. The lengths you must go with prompts to ensure you're getting the right response is extremely similar to the lengths you go to when delegating something to someone or describing requirements to a project. I wonder if whatever language we end up using to "converse" with LLMs would have value within an organization/email/Jira.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> I’m not an LLM, but English is already pretty awful for conveying information succinctly. The lengths you must go with prompts to ensure you’re getting the right response is extremely similar to the lengths you go to when delegating something to someone or describing requirements to a project. I wonder if whatever language we end up using to “converse” with LLMs would have value within an organization/email/Jira. People already adopt context-specific specialized languages in contexts like that for clarity, what will probably happen is that LLMs will get better at adapting or being adapted to specific contexts.
bcrosby95 3y ago
I prefix my longer prompts with glossaries. It lets me write more succinctly.
- redblacktree 3y ago
  I would love an example of this.
  - bcrosby95 3y ago
    It's pretty simple, I just add a glossary of terms at the top. When asking for creative but well-structured output that requires specific definitions of certain words to be useful, I've found it works best to use words for your terms that don't actually exist. Otherwise it seems to focus a bit more on the broader word more than it should rather than your definition, especially if you use it a lot.
Qweiuu 3y ago
I'm normally the type of Google person with doing minus or using other tags. I totally gave that up with chatgpt and the magic of it is that it understands it so so we'll. Sometimes I also switch to German in the middle of a sentence or use very vague words to describe something if the word is missing in my head.

rytill 3y ago

Why do you find that funny?

ipaddr 3y ago
That's chatgpt main function. What if we introduced a language that could be converted to another language that uses tool to speak to chatgpt.

seydor 3y ago

We can then train an LLM to generate it though

gajnadsgjoas 3y ago

Check out https://lmql.ai/ https://lmql.ai/

behnamoh 3y ago
Can someone please compare guidance with lmql? I don’t wanna learn multiple programming languages to handle LLMs as that defeats the whole point.

Decabytes 3y ago

I've been thinking about this a lot recently. Communicating with LLMs using Lobjan for less ambiguity in text, or some LLM optimized language that can inject the most amount of meaning per token. Or writing in a AI Optimized Programming Language that is easier for it to parse and reason about

awwaiid 3y ago

JS > asm.js > wasm all over again