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At first I was skeptical of the difference between 3.5 and 4 but there really is a large gap in the models understanding of complex issues between them. I make

At first I was skeptical of the difference between 3.5 and 4 but there really is a large gap in the models understanding of complex issues between them. I make a habit of always selecting gpt4 but forgot to yesterday. Within 3 responses I could immediately tell I was interacting with a less capable model.

icelancer 3y ago
It really is tremendous for code fuzzing/optimizing. When I hit the rate limit on ChatGPT and switch to 3.5-turbo, the quality difference is immediately noticeable, so much so that I finally set up my own private ChatGPT instance with an API key for GPT-4 so I stopped running into these issues while coding.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Ever since I got API access to GPT-4, I don't even bother with using ChatGPT proper (I need to cancel the subscription one of these days). I tend to use it in bursts, so smoothing usage by rate limits doesn't work for me. Is it more expensive this way? At the rate I'm using it, probably 2-3x. Is it worth it? Absolutely. I've never in my life felt so happy to pay for something per request.
  - icelancer 3y ago
    Yeah, I gotta just do that as well - convert to using GPT-4 entirely by rate and by API. I use the plugins and new features on ChatGPT though, and it's nice to have a single interface to use 3.5-turbo for comparison, Code Interpreter once in awhile, etc. So I'll probably just keep it. It's $20/month, after all.
cocoflunchy 3y ago
Small tip, you can bookmark https://chat.openai.com/?model=gpt-4 https://chat.openai.com/?model=gpt-4 to avoid the click
- doctoboggan 3y ago
  I actually use it through the API playground and not the chat interface. I like the explicit control it gives me over the context and system prompts.
TeMPOraL 3y ago
Same here, though GPT-3.5 surprised me positively. I felt something was off, but didn't realize what, until I unexpectedly hit the context window limit - at which point it dawned on me that I forgot to switch to GPT-4... I didn't notice earlier, because GPT-3.5 managed to give solid answers to a relatively simple programming task I gave it (generating a single-page, dependency-free image gallery I could just drop on a server as HTML file and have it work).

icelancer 3y ago

It really is tremendous for code fuzzing/optimizing. When I hit the rate limit on ChatGPT and switch to 3.5-turbo, the quality difference is immediately noticeable, so much so that I finally set up my own private ChatGPT instance with an API key for GPT-4 so I stopped running into these issues while coding.

TeMPOraL 3y ago
Ever since I got API access to GPT-4, I don't even bother with using ChatGPT proper (I need to cancel the subscription one of these days). I tend to use it in bursts, so smoothing usage by rate limits doesn't work for me. Is it more expensive this way? At the rate I'm using it, probably 2-3x. Is it worth it? Absolutely. I've never in my life felt so happy to pay for something per request.
- icelancer 3y ago
  Yeah, I gotta just do that as well - convert to using GPT-4 entirely by rate and by API. I use the plugins and new features on ChatGPT though, and it's nice to have a single interface to use 3.5-turbo for comparison, Code Interpreter once in awhile, etc. So I'll probably just keep it. It's $20/month, after all.

cocoflunchy 3y ago

Small tip, you can bookmark https://chat.openai.com/?model=gpt-4 https://chat.openai.com/?model=gpt-4 to avoid the click

doctoboggan 3y ago
I actually use it through the API playground and not the chat interface. I like the explicit control it gives me over the context and system prompts.

TeMPOraL 3y ago

Same here, though GPT-3.5 surprised me positively. I felt something was off, but didn't realize what, until I unexpectedly hit the context window limit - at which point it dawned on me that I forgot to switch to GPT-4... I didn't notice earlier, because GPT-3.5 managed to give solid answers to a relatively simple programming task I gave it (generating a single-page, dependency-free image gallery I could just drop on a server as HTML file and have it work).