> italians talk about obedience in exchange for bread and butter I've never used that word, that's your own insecurities talking. What people want is not obedi

> italians talk about obedience in exchange for bread and butter I've never used that word, that's your own insecurities talking. What people want is not obedience, is respect: respect for the founding principles of the community they joined, and respect for the solidarity that the founders extend every day to them. Instead, certain elements in Eastern Europe demand more and more, without ever giving anything back. > If Italy doesnt like this then it can leave. Sure, but why should we leave a house we built, that we still fundamentally believe in, and that we know we benefit from in various ways...? Obviously we won't. It's much more likely that we will simply continue to work to improve the house rules. > East europe is increasingly more relevant. Lol. I'm not sure you noticed, but Visegrad is dead. In EU institutions, the great killer is isolation. The more you beat your chest, the less you will get.