>> Zen 1 was terrible and is not a useful baseline. First off, it's a perfect baseline when comparing AMD chips since that time. Zen 1 was similar to Intel per

>> Zen 1 was terrible and is not a useful baseline. First off, it's a perfect baseline when comparing AMD chips since that time. Zen 1 was similar to Intel performance-wise, winning some benchmarks and losing some. Second, the Raven Ridge (Zen 1+) APUs were IMHO excellent performance for the price at the time - even against Intel. I have not felt the need to build a new system since the Mellori_ITX: https://github.com/phkahler/mellori_ITX https://github.com/phkahler/mellori_ITX