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Also after taking away the ability to forgive federal student loan debt through bankruptcy, there needs to be a way for students to advocate for their outcomes

Also after taking away the ability to forgive federal student loan debt through bankruptcy, there needs to be a way for students to advocate for their outcomes because there's no remedy if it doesn't go well for them.

bumby 3y ago
Can you clarify what you mean by advocating for their outcomes?
- nunuvit 3y ago
  Being the customer.
  - bumby 3y ago
    I’m sure we can see where this goes astray when dealing with public goods. When physician reimbursements get tied to customer satisfaction, patients start to become over medicated, for example.
    - nunuvit 3y ago
      I agree. The better solution is to do away with unforgivable debt.
      - bumby 3y ago
        Or just fix the system so debt isn’t necessary or so easily acquired. Any time you subsidize something (aka giving free debt forgiveness) you tend to get more of it
        nunuvit 3y ago
        Of course. I'm just explaining why it kind of makes sense that the student would be the customer in the current messed-up system.
        bumby 3y ago
        I’m just saying that exacerbates the messed-uped-ness. IMO it mates things worse, even though it superficially makes sense.
        nunuvit 3y ago
        We're in complete agreement. It does make things worse. It's a stupid partial mitigation with serious downsides for a profoundly stupid problem.