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This isn’t free?! Feels like 1Password is the main beneficiary in this relationship. Consider: 1pass owns the auth, and who knows how they’ll wield that power

by ed 3y ago

This isn’t free?! Feels like 1Password is the main beneficiary in this relationship. Consider: 1pass owns the auth, and who knows how they’ll wield that power (need to deliver a return on their massive $920m VC round!), the burden to educate users about “passkeys” is on web developers, not 1pass, and guess who gets stuck providing customer support when a passkey doesn’t work? I’m a 1Password user and constantly run into edge-case bugs (for example there’s a UI flow that suggests a new password to use during google’s password reset, then doesn’t save the password - really!). I get that they don’t have the full support of OS developers, so there will be edge cases. But these problems keep e.g. my parents from sticking with password managers. It’s just easier for them to keep a password journal. At least they don’t reuse passwords in the event of a leak.

kjreact 3y ago
After 1Password moved to subscription only, I’m never recommending them to anyone. How does it make sense to surrender your authentication credentials to a subscription service?
- LeoPanthera 3y ago
  > How does it make sense to surrender your authentication credentials to a subscription service? You're paying for cloud sync. 1Password don't get your credentials, they're encrypted client-side, and 1Password doesn't see your master password. If you don't want to pay for the service, that's fine, there are plenty of local-only alternatives for which you can presumably build your own syncing solution, but it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't "make sense" when you misrepresent a product which a lot of people obviously feel is worth the price - including me.
  - kjreact 3y ago
    Looking at the site, I may have worded my reply too strongly since you can still export your passwords even if your subscription ends. But nonetheless, 1Password used to make a great product where I could choose to sync my password to any cloud service of my choice without subscription. They discontinued their standalone product because they knew they could make a lot more money by selling subscriptions. That’s their prerogative, but it’s also mine to point potential customers to Bitwarden, which can be used free of charge, can be self-hosted, and is open source.

by ed 3y ago

kjreact 3y ago

After 1Password moved to subscription only, I’m never recommending them to anyone. How does it make sense to surrender your authentication credentials to a subscription service?

LeoPanthera 3y ago
> How does it make sense to surrender your authentication credentials to a subscription service? You're paying for cloud sync. 1Password don't get your credentials, they're encrypted client-side, and 1Password doesn't see your master password. If you don't want to pay for the service, that's fine, there are plenty of local-only alternatives for which you can presumably build your own syncing solution, but it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't "make sense" when you misrepresent a product which a lot of people obviously feel is worth the price - including me.
- kjreact 3y ago
  Looking at the site, I may have worded my reply too strongly since you can still export your passwords even if your subscription ends. But nonetheless, 1Password used to make a great product where I could choose to sync my password to any cloud service of my choice without subscription. They discontinued their standalone product because they knew they could make a lot more money by selling subscriptions. That’s their prerogative, but it’s also mine to point potential customers to Bitwarden, which can be used free of charge, can be self-hosted, and is open source.