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I emphatically disagree. If you live in a city, it's quite sufficient for IPTV, a bit of youtube, spotify, etc.

bradfa 3y ago
YouTube, Netflix, music streaming, most video conferencing, and general web browsing all work fine on a 1.5Mb/s link in my experience. It's certainly not fast, but it's fast enough to do the basics.
- lucb1e 3y ago
  Most things you mention are a matter of buffering and waiting it out, so those will work in a 'basic' fashion as you say. But video conferencing? Even in a 1:1 call, where you need to download only one audio and video stream, if you don't live alone (most people don't), I would be very impressed if you got a router that can recognise and prioritise the call traffic to the point where that works smoothly.
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  - bradfa 3y ago
    I used to have 768kbps down / 128kbps up cable internet. There was some buffering on Netflix at the start of a stream but it was fine. When we got upgraded to 1.5Mbps down / 256kbps up there was basically no buffering at the start of Netflix or YouTube streams and FaceTime worked fine.
rcme 3y ago
Sure, you might get away with consuming a single video stream. But you shouldn't be surprised that there is very little demand for this. A single HD video stream (1080p) can require 8 mbps. Trying to consume multiple of these, especially with a realtime protocol like WebRTC, is impossible on an ADSL connection.
- omginternets 3y ago
  I suspect there may be a fair few people in my position who would be happy to scale down. Whether or not that is actually the case is, indeed, a question for market research.
  - rcme 3y ago
    I don't think you'd be happy scaling down. You may think you'd like it, but when you can't watch a video on your phone and laptop at the same time (and that's not even talking about anyone else using WiFi in the home), you'll quickly realize why no one uses ADSL any more.
    - omginternets 3y ago
      >I don't think you'd be happy scaling down. My current setup is ADSL. I am trying to replicate it elsewhere. As a subject-matter expert on "things I like", let me assure you that I am indeed very happy with it.
- CrampusDestrus 3y ago
  Yes, consume consume and keep consuming. Earn less and consume more!
jdofaz 3y ago
My DSL is 15/1, it's fast enough to stream 4k. The upload stinks but its cheap and reliable.

YouTube, Netflix, music streaming, most video conferencing, and general web browsing all work fine on a 1.5Mb/s link in my experience. It's certainly not fast, but it's fast enough to do the basics.

lucb1e 3y ago
Most things you mention are a matter of buffering and waiting it out, so those will work in a 'basic' fashion as you say. But video conferencing? Even in a 1:1 call, where you need to download only one audio and video stream, if you don't live alone (most people don't), I would be very impressed if you got a router that can recognise and prioritise the call traffic to the point where that works smoothly.
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- bradfa 3y ago
  I used to have 768kbps down / 128kbps up cable internet. There was some buffering on Netflix at the start of a stream but it was fine. When we got upgraded to 1.5Mbps down / 256kbps up there was basically no buffering at the start of Netflix or YouTube streams and FaceTime worked fine.

rcme 3y ago

Sure, you might get away with consuming a single video stream. But you shouldn't be surprised that there is very little demand for this. A single HD video stream (1080p) can require 8 mbps. Trying to consume multiple of these, especially with a realtime protocol like WebRTC, is impossible on an ADSL connection.

omginternets 3y ago
I suspect there may be a fair few people in my position who would be happy to scale down. Whether or not that is actually the case is, indeed, a question for market research.
- rcme 3y ago
  I don't think you'd be happy scaling down. You may think you'd like it, but when you can't watch a video on your phone and laptop at the same time (and that's not even talking about anyone else using WiFi in the home), you'll quickly realize why no one uses ADSL any more.
  - omginternets 3y ago
    >I don't think you'd be happy scaling down. My current setup is ADSL. I am trying to replicate it elsewhere. As a subject-matter expert on "things I like", let me assure you that I am indeed very happy with it.
CrampusDestrus 3y ago
Yes, consume consume and keep consuming. Earn less and consume more!

jdofaz 3y ago

My DSL is 15/1, it's fast enough to stream 4k. The upload stinks but its cheap and reliable.