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Say what you like but... Students ARE the customers. When the state/local government, tax payers etc paid for education, they could reasonably have a say. Bu
by LatteLazy 3y ago
Say what you like but... Students ARE the customers. When the state/local government, tax payers etc paid for education, they could reasonably have a say. But that's not the case anymore. And If I am being asked for 100k I damn well expect a few parties, a nice gym and a low stress experience.
- dh2022 3y agoNot sure if you meant to be sarcastic, but parties, gym, pool, snowboarding trips, are available for a lot less than 100K.
- bumby 3y agoMaybe only for a few colleges that refuse govt funds (e.g., Hillsdale college). But most still receive a huge amount of public money.
- EatingWithForks 3y agoPublic money for universities have actually scaled back over time. > A majority of state legislatures spent far less on public colleges and universities in 2020 than they did in 2008, an NEA analysis shows. This means colleges and universities must rely on students to pay the cost of college—and those students are borrowing to do it. https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-change/new-from-nea/state-funding-higher-education-still-lagging https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-change/new-from-nea/state...
- nunuvit 3y agoAlso after taking away the ability to forgive federal student loan debt through bankruptcy, there needs to be a way for students to advocate for their outcomes because there's no remedy if it doesn't go well for them.
- bumby 3y agoCan you clarify what you mean by advocating for their outcomes?
- nunuvit 3y agoBeing the customer.
- bumby 3y agoI’m sure we can see where this goes astray when dealing with public goods. When physician reimbursements get tied to customer satisfaction, patients start to become over medicated, for example.
- bumby 3y agoTrue, State funding has gone down and that is part of the reason why tuition has increased. But when you combine federal, state, and other public funds (scholarships, GI Bill etc.) the public is still paying for a large amount. Saying funding has decreased silent be conflated with funding being negligible. What if the “customer” just wants to pay money to get a piece of paper without any of the associated work? Should that customer/client agreement be honored?