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> there is free WiFi almost everywhere Have you actually tried to use this? I can't remember the last time I used free WiFi and it actually worked as intended

> there is free WiFi almost everywhere Have you actually tried to use this? I can't remember the last time I used free WiFi and it actually worked as intended. It's always some combination of slow, broken, intermittent, and needs you to agree to terms and conditions too long to read.

hammyhavoc 3y ago
BT works just fine. Have used it for at least 8 years without any fuss. I don't even know that I've connected to it unless I checked, it just does it. As such, I use very little cellular data.
- fauigerzigerk 3y ago
  If you mean BT Wi-fi that's not free. https://www.btwifi.co.uk/ https://www.btwifi.co.uk/
  - jon-wood 3y ago
    It’s “free” if you’re paying for a BT internet connection at home.
    - 10xDev 3y ago
      > It’s “free” if you’re paying
    - fauigerzigerk 3y ago
      Exactly. I used it for a few days before my BT modem arrived at my previous address. It's OK-ish if you're lucky but it's certainly not free in any sense of the word.
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    In the context of the comment I'm responding to that mentions "the opposite", that consists of paying for a home internet connection. If I'm paying for a home BT internet connection, I get free BT WiFi, which hugely off-sets my cellular data usage. As a result, I pay just £9.50 per month for my phone plan on a rolling contract with Virgin.
  - LordDragonfang 3y ago
    Cox and Comcast/Xfinity do the same thing in the States. Free wifi using other paying customers' wifi as long as you also pay for it at home.
AnthonyMouse 3y ago
> Have you actually tried to use this? I have. Most establishments have decent WiFi which is easy enough to connect to because they want you to sit there all day and keep buying $5 lattes. Once in a while you get stuck somewhere the WiFi sucks, but that only matters if you're transferring enough data to care, and those two things rarely overlap. So a couple times a year you have to pay $3 to transfer a lot of data over cellular, which is way less than what you're saving by having a cheaper plan. Although I will say that WiFi terms of service are a blight that should be prohibited by law. Nobody reads them the same as nobody reads the Facebook terms of service, and all 99% of them say is a hundred paragraphs of "don't break the law" which is already implied. All the terms of service do is interfere with what should be a protocol where an access point intended to be public announces itself as such and then any device in range which is still on cellular automatically switches to it with no configuration required.

hammyhavoc 3y ago

BT works just fine. Have used it for at least 8 years without any fuss. I don't even know that I've connected to it unless I checked, it just does it. As such, I use very little cellular data.

fauigerzigerk 3y ago
If you mean BT Wi-fi that's not free. https://www.btwifi.co.uk/ https://www.btwifi.co.uk/
- jon-wood 3y ago
  It’s “free” if you’re paying for a BT internet connection at home.
  - 10xDev 3y ago
    > It’s “free” if you’re paying
  - fauigerzigerk 3y ago
    Exactly. I used it for a few days before my BT modem arrived at my previous address. It's OK-ish if you're lucky but it's certainly not free in any sense of the word.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  In the context of the comment I'm responding to that mentions "the opposite", that consists of paying for a home internet connection. If I'm paying for a home BT internet connection, I get free BT WiFi, which hugely off-sets my cellular data usage. As a result, I pay just £9.50 per month for my phone plan on a rolling contract with Virgin.
- LordDragonfang 3y ago
  Cox and Comcast/Xfinity do the same thing in the States. Free wifi using other paying customers' wifi as long as you also pay for it at home.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

> Have you actually tried to use this? I have. Most establishments have decent WiFi which is easy enough to connect to because they want you to sit there all day and keep buying $5 lattes. Once in a while you get stuck somewhere the WiFi sucks, but that only matters if you're transferring enough data to care, and those two things rarely overlap. So a couple times a year you have to pay $3 to transfer a lot of data over cellular, which is way less than what you're saving by having a cheaper plan. Although I will say that WiFi terms of service are a blight that should be prohibited by law. Nobody reads them the same as nobody reads the Facebook terms of service, and all 99% of them say is a hundred paragraphs of "don't break the law" which is already implied. All the terms of service do is interfere with what should be a protocol where an access point intended to be public announces itself as such and then any device in range which is still on cellular automatically switches to it with no configuration required.