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Nobody was forced to do anything; migration started almost immediately after 1989-90, simply because the eastern economic and social landscape was depleted afte
by toyg 3y ago
Nobody was forced to do anything; migration started almost immediately after 1989-90, simply because the eastern economic and social landscape was depleted after the failures of the '80s. Delocalization took a bit longer simply because it required institutional stability, which some countries achieved faster than others. Volkswagen were already making parts in Chzechia in the mid-90s, do you think they were making twice the parts they needed...?
> basically admitting the plan has always been to keep those people poor
That's not what delocalization does; in the long run it inevitably leads to wage growth in target countries - it happened even in China. The "plan", or rather intuition of some political players of the time, was simply to exploit lower salaries as long as it was possible, knowing full well that it wouldn't be forever.
> What was initially sold as a continuation of the marshal plan has taken a very dark european shape.
As I said, nobody is forced to stay in. If those countries stay in, it's because they know which side their bread is buttered.
- gumballindie 3y agoIt is a sad state of affairs when italians talk about obedience in exchange for bread and butter. Perhaps a skill gained after causing the largest financial disaster in eu’s history, together with other south european countries. Instead east europe demands a level playing field so it doesnt have to rely on eu funding, partly needed due to misguided policies. If Italy doesnt like this then it can leave. East europe is increasingly more relevant.
- swexbe 3y ago"The evil westerners are keeping us poor and our people are emigrating" vs "East europe is increasingly more relevant" You appear to have some cognitive dissonance.
- gumballindie 3y ago> The evil westerners Never said that.
- toyg 3y ago> italians talk about obedience in exchange for bread and butter I've never used that word, that's your own insecurities talking. What people want is not obedience, is respect: respect for the founding principles of the community they joined, and respect for the solidarity that the founders extend every day to them. Instead, certain elements in Eastern Europe demand more and more, without ever giving anything back. > If Italy doesnt like this then it can leave. Sure, but why should we leave a house we built, that we still fundamentally believe in, and that we know we benefit from in various ways...? Obviously we won't. It's much more likely that we will simply continue to work to improve the house rules. > East europe is increasingly more relevant. Lol. I'm not sure you noticed, but Visegrad is dead. In EU institutions, the great killer is isolation. The more you beat your chest, the less you will get.