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China's BRI has been a great advertisement for the IMF. 1. The IMF gives loans at significantly lower rates than China does. That clearly points out that the d
by asdajksah2123 3y ago
China's BRI has been a great advertisement for the IMF.
1. The IMF gives loans at significantly lower rates than China does. That clearly points out that the donor countries in the IMF are far more generous than any other entity that will lend to the countries in question, which completely goes against the idea that the IMF is trying to extract money out of poorly situated countries.
2. The IMF has never, AFAIK, appropriated land and property for default, or if it has, it's been on a very small scale over many decades. China has already appropriated massive parts of sovereign territory during a very short period of time. That's another indication of how generous the IMF really is.
3. Most importantly, the major complaint about the IMF has always been their demands for "austerity". Admittedly (as in, the IMF has literally admitted this), the IMF regulations were too strict in this regard, and the IMF has consequently loosened a lot of these requirements. But what the BRI has shown is that the intention, and effect, of these requirements is indeed good for the citizens of the recipient country, because it reduces the chances that the leaders simply pocket the IMF money (some still do), and it reduces the chances that the country will be caught in a debt spiral (some still do). The BRI has shown an alternative where the donors do not require structural changes from the recipient countries. And almost predictably, the result isn't that it leads to the recipient country's administration running their country in a fiscally sustainable manner without the evil foreign oversight. The result is that the country continues to be run terribly, benefiting the leaders personally, and moving all the costs off to the next government and/or the citizens themselves, but a few years into the future. This is fairly obvious when you recognize that invariably it's teh leaders who brought the country to a position where they need to beg for money that are getting the donated money itself.
Essentially, the Belt and Road Initiative has pretty much completely undermined the idea that the IMF/World Bank (I didn't mention the World Bank because it's broadly considered far less coercive than the IMF) are an evil tool of western imperialism (which was obvious in the first place, considering the WB/IMF are completely voluntary organizations, and if they weren't so evil in the first place countries wouldn't go to them), and are in fact providing loans to countries that would never get them at all otherwise, at rates that are lower than anyone else would offer, and look out for the actual citizens (including future citizens) of the country in a way no other lending entity does.
The only reason countries are opting for BRI funds instead of the IMF at this point is because their corrupt leaders know that even though those funds are far more expensive, and will invariably lead to ceding sovereign control of territory/projects to China, China will not care about the leaders themselves pocketing the money, unlike the IMF.
- CogitoCogito 3y ago> China has already appropriated massive parts of sovereign territory during a very short period of time. What happens if the countries simply don't give up the territory? I.e. they default on the loan and then also don't hold out their end of the deal with whatever collateral was put up?
- asdajksah2123 3y agoAs the article points out, many of these loans have secret funds setup as collateral. But if they don't hand over the money to China? Well, no one lends money to you anymore. If you were the leader of a country, what is preferable? Giving up property and/or territory which allows you to continue borrowing so the people in your country can buy food and gas, or protecting the territory but the people in the country starving and running out of energy to run their businesses?
- CogitoCogito 3y ago> But if they don't hand over the money to China? Well, no one lends money to you anymore. > If you were the leader of a country, what is preferable? Giving up property and/or territory which allows you to continue borrowing so the people in your country can buy food and gas, or protecting the territory but the people in the country starving and running out of energy to run their businesses? What would be preferable? To default. I'm serious. I mean otherwise what are your critiques about in this thread at all. Should the original loans have been agreed to? If not, why not? Money is coming in after all and if that is the only concern than what is the problem with the original loans. Besides the fact that China won't loan to them in the future is maybe assured, but I don't see why it's assured they couldn't get loans from others. Though it's true that others maybe won't loan money under conditions where they can't make any repayment. Or maybe the others won't loan the money under conditions where it just disappears due to corruption. Sounds...good?