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by roflyear 3y ago

yes

SilasX 3y ago
Oh. Cool, I didn't think that reductio was going to be that easy!
- roflyear 3y ago
  In any case, here's the facts: when I make coffee at home, it is brewed at 200ish F. That is true. When I make tea tho it's like 170ishf. By the time I am ready to consume (post brewing) both are still not, but consumable, so I think it is safe to say that they won't burn me, at least very badly, if spilled on me.
  - SilasX 3y ago
    And if you served them to a guest, right after preparing for yourself, it will be before it’s cooled down enough to drink. That doesn’t make it your fault if they spill it on themselves and fuse their labia. And it doesn’t make the grossness of the accident into prima facia evidence of the culpability of any one party up the line, as it’s always presented in these discussions.
    - roflyear 3y ago
      They don't brew the coffee as it is served. They keep the coffee at a super high temp for whatever reason, but they don't have to.
    - emodendroket 3y ago
      I can’t speak for the other guy but I don’t pour tea for myself or others until it’s cooled down considerably, and also in this scenario we’re not giving the guest the beverage in a paper cup they’re meant to consume in their car.
      - SilasX 3y ago
        We're not talking about idiosyncratic special cases here, we're talking about the norm. That's why I provided a citation rather than building a case off of a particular individual's routine. From the link: "Black and oolong teas are generally steeped in hot or boiling water (about 210º F) and brewed for about 4-5 minutes. Green tea is steeped at a slightly lower temperature 180º F from 4-15 minutes. The longer tea steeps, the stronger the flavor with bitter notes." And I don't think anyone recommends you put hot beverages in your crotch area.
        emodendroket 3y ago
        OK but that tells me nothing about serving? Do you expect a plate of pasta to be served in boiling water? It also seems clear to me that one should take into account that someone is having the drink in the car and not at the table if you’re operating a drive-through restaurant.

yes

SilasX 3y ago

Oh. Cool, I didn't think that reductio was going to be that easy!

roflyear 3y ago
In any case, here's the facts: when I make coffee at home, it is brewed at 200ish F. That is true. When I make tea tho it's like 170ishf. By the time I am ready to consume (post brewing) both are still not, but consumable, so I think it is safe to say that they won't burn me, at least very badly, if spilled on me.
- SilasX 3y ago
  And if you served them to a guest, right after preparing for yourself, it will be before it’s cooled down enough to drink. That doesn’t make it your fault if they spill it on themselves and fuse their labia. And it doesn’t make the grossness of the accident into prima facia evidence of the culpability of any one party up the line, as it’s always presented in these discussions.
  - roflyear 3y ago
    They don't brew the coffee as it is served. They keep the coffee at a super high temp for whatever reason, but they don't have to.
  - emodendroket 3y ago
    I can’t speak for the other guy but I don’t pour tea for myself or others until it’s cooled down considerably, and also in this scenario we’re not giving the guest the beverage in a paper cup they’re meant to consume in their car.
    - SilasX 3y ago
      We're not talking about idiosyncratic special cases here, we're talking about the norm. That's why I provided a citation rather than building a case off of a particular individual's routine. From the link: "Black and oolong teas are generally steeped in hot or boiling water (about 210º F) and brewed for about 4-5 minutes. Green tea is steeped at a slightly lower temperature 180º F from 4-15 minutes. The longer tea steeps, the stronger the flavor with bitter notes." And I don't think anyone recommends you put hot beverages in your crotch area.
      - emodendroket 3y ago
        OK but that tells me nothing about serving? Do you expect a plate of pasta to be served in boiling water? It also seems clear to me that one should take into account that someone is having the drink in the car and not at the table if you’re operating a drive-through restaurant.