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I see where you're coming from, but it might be worth considering that it being your property doesn't imply that you can repair it. I bought a CPU, I own it, it

I see where you're coming from, but it might be worth considering that it being your property doesn't imply that you can repair it. I bought a CPU, I own it, it's my property, and if it somehow broke, I am completely unable to repair it. But that's immaterial, because as the article mentions, you -are- able to repair it. There's just not enough of a market for third-party repair shops, when they're competing with Apple offering the same service. Of course it'd be nice if repairs were cheaper, who wouldn't want that? But the cost of repair doesn't define whether something is your property or not.

circuit10 3y ago
But Apple are trying the make sure you can’t repair things except through them, or through one of their “authorised” providers which means they are only allowed to do a few types of repairs and there’s no price competition because they have to buy all of their parts from Apple. They do part serialisation, meaning that the parts have some kind of encryption key/serial number so that they won’t work properly until Apple pairs them.
eimrine 3y ago
But you can repair some laptop with it. If the cpu and the laptop is not from Apple.
- qwytw 3y ago
  Are there even any mass-produced laptops with replaceable CPUs left?
  - eimrine 3y ago
    All of them does, but with with a little help of IR soldering station.
Dalewyn 3y ago
I agree, right to repair does not stipulate any upper price limit. Crying for the ability to repair an item is reasonable and justifiable, but crying for those repairs to also be cheap is straight up being greedy. Yes, it's ironic.
AnthonyMouse 3y ago
> There's just not enough of a market for third-party repair shops, when they're competing with Apple offering the same service. There is plenty of a market for repair services. Lots of people with skills and lots of customers with broken devices. What there isn't is access to parts necessary to do the repairs. When Apple is the only source, they add the full markup they charge to do the repair themselves to the price of the part itself, which prevents anyone else from offering a lower markup. The answer to this is to have competing suppliers of the parts, but that doesn't happen when the system is purposely designed to be non-modular so an indivisible part can only be produced by a huge conglomerate and the parts that can be replaced are DRM locked to prevent even that level of competition.
Xelbair 3y ago
>I see where you're coming from, but it might be worth considering that it being your property doesn't imply that you can repair it. I bought a CPU, I own it, it's my property, and if it somehow broke, I am completely unable to repair it. depends where you put a border between a part and a device. If you treat PC as a whole, CPU is just a part. And frankly - CPU is useless by itself.

circuit10 3y ago

But Apple are trying the make sure you can’t repair things except through them, or through one of their “authorised” providers which means they are only allowed to do a few types of repairs and there’s no price competition because they have to buy all of their parts from Apple. They do part serialisation, meaning that the parts have some kind of encryption key/serial number so that they won’t work properly until Apple pairs them.

eimrine 3y ago

But you can repair some laptop with it. If the cpu and the laptop is not from Apple.

qwytw 3y ago
Are there even any mass-produced laptops with replaceable CPUs left?
- eimrine 3y ago
  All of them does, but with with a little help of IR soldering station.

Dalewyn 3y ago

I agree, right to repair does not stipulate any upper price limit. Crying for the ability to repair an item is reasonable and justifiable, but crying for those repairs to also be cheap is straight up being greedy. Yes, it's ironic.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

> There's just not enough of a market for third-party repair shops, when they're competing with Apple offering the same service. There is plenty of a market for repair services. Lots of people with skills and lots of customers with broken devices. What there isn't is access to parts necessary to do the repairs. When Apple is the only source, they add the full markup they charge to do the repair themselves to the price of the part itself, which prevents anyone else from offering a lower markup. The answer to this is to have competing suppliers of the parts, but that doesn't happen when the system is purposely designed to be non-modular so an indivisible part can only be produced by a huge conglomerate and the parts that can be replaced are DRM locked to prevent even that level of competition.

Xelbair 3y ago

>I see where you're coming from, but it might be worth considering that it being your property doesn't imply that you can repair it. I bought a CPU, I own it, it's my property, and if it somehow broke, I am completely unable to repair it. depends where you put a border between a part and a device. If you treat PC as a whole, CPU is just a part. And frankly - CPU is useless by itself.