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> Anglo Saxon culture A language is not a culture. Many people with English as a native language are not culturally Anglo-Saxon. And even if it was, prevalenc

> Anglo Saxon culture A language is not a culture. Many people with English as a native language are not culturally Anglo-Saxon. And even if it was, prevalence is not supremacy.

montecarl 3y ago
I really enjoy speaking with native English speakers from India. Fully mastery of the language, but with different idioms! For example "do the needful"[1] https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/17621/do-the-needful-why-is-it-used-instead-of-asking-a-question https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/17621/do-the-needful...
hunglee2 3y ago
language is clearly a major part of culture, maybe the essential element of it. Those who control language and are able to impose it - explicitly or implicitly - onto others, have cultural supremacy. The entire world is being Americanised via the English transported via hegemonic control over social and broadcast media. I see this is neither laudable nor worthy of condemnation but simply as a description of observable phenomena
- nsplayer 3y ago
  In a weird and perhaps slightly twisted way I am hoping that LLMs become so good at spam and creating garbage to flood the net in english that they forfeit the ability to do so in other languages resulting in a balkanization (in a good way) of discussion and thought back to the native languages of peoples and thus more integrated with their culture. in practice translation engines (e.g. deepl or LLMs themselves - though i still expect deepl to be better) probably will throw a wrench into this, but perhaps some localization approach in CAPTCHAs or simply just outright banning geoips not belonging to the countries with natives of that language (or significant minority populations) is a quick enough fix. i know some imageboards (e.g. british ones) use this because otherwise they would be flooded with americans.
- flanked-evergl 3y ago
  > The entire world is being Americanised via the English transported via hegemonic control over social and broadcast media. How exactly is the culture that the US is imposing on the rest of the world — including England, Germany, Netherlands and Denmark, the places that Anglo-Saxons and their ancestors came from — Anglo-Saxon?

> Anglo Saxon culture A language is not a culture. Many people with English as a native language are not culturally Anglo-Saxon. And even if it was, prevalence is not supremacy.

montecarl 3y ago

I really enjoy speaking with native English speakers from India. Fully mastery of the language, but with different idioms! For example "do the needful"[1] https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/17621/do-the-needful-why-is-it-used-instead-of-asking-a-question https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/17621/do-the-needful...

hunglee2 3y ago

language is clearly a major part of culture, maybe the essential element of it. Those who control language and are able to impose it - explicitly or implicitly - onto others, have cultural supremacy. The entire world is being Americanised via the English transported via hegemonic control over social and broadcast media. I see this is neither laudable nor worthy of condemnation but simply as a description of observable phenomena

nsplayer 3y ago
In a weird and perhaps slightly twisted way I am hoping that LLMs become so good at spam and creating garbage to flood the net in english that they forfeit the ability to do so in other languages resulting in a balkanization (in a good way) of discussion and thought back to the native languages of peoples and thus more integrated with their culture. in practice translation engines (e.g. deepl or LLMs themselves - though i still expect deepl to be better) probably will throw a wrench into this, but perhaps some localization approach in CAPTCHAs or simply just outright banning geoips not belonging to the countries with natives of that language (or significant minority populations) is a quick enough fix. i know some imageboards (e.g. british ones) use this because otherwise they would be flooded with americans.
flanked-evergl 3y ago
> The entire world is being Americanised via the English transported via hegemonic control over social and broadcast media. How exactly is the culture that the US is imposing on the rest of the world — including England, Germany, Netherlands and Denmark, the places that Anglo-Saxons and their ancestors came from — Anglo-Saxon?