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I haven't followed this closely but frankly I feel similarly. I think only people who are violent and dangerous to other people should be locked up, and even th

I haven't followed this closely but frankly I feel similarly. I think only people who are violent and dangerous to other people should be locked up, and even then only until they are no longer dangerous. If things can be organised so she is no longer capable of defrauding people (banned from holding certain positions in companies etc.) I don't see why she should be locked up. I'm sure I would feel differently if I had been defrauded by her, but isn't that exactly why the burden of justice fulls on people other than the aggrieved?

agentgumshoe 3y ago
So what consequences do you propose for those that create such frauds that should act as an effective deterrent? Being 'demoted' after the fact doesn't really encourage anyone not to get to the top and do fraud in the first place.
ak_111 3y ago
I sympathise with this view in general and with her situation having kids she won't be able to see for 10 years. But us I understand in this specific case she played an important role in driving one of her employees to suicide, and her fraud concerning her tech is not just financial, it was giving people false information about their health, including cancer - which is close to violence to me. In fact my sympathy with this case is not that it is too harsh for a small crime (fraud), it is that the crime is so huge that she must have been psychopath and might deserve mental treatment. Genuinely how can someone live with giving hundred of thousands of people false health information based on a test they know is garbage?
dataengineer56 3y ago
She is dangerous to other people. Let's not forget that this was medical fraud - people's lives were affected due to bad diagnoses.
Daub 3y ago
> I think only people who are violent and dangerous to other people should be locked up, and even then only until they are no longer dangerous. What about people who knowingly allow the blood of cancer patents to be tested using technology which they know does not work?
failbuffer 3y ago
You're discounting the deterrent effect. Defrauding investors has a huge negative impact on society, to say nothing of bogus blood test results, deceiving regulators, and ruthlessly threatening legal actions against whistleblowers and journalists.

agentgumshoe 3y ago

So what consequences do you propose for those that create such frauds that should act as an effective deterrent? Being 'demoted' after the fact doesn't really encourage anyone not to get to the top and do fraud in the first place.

ak_111 3y ago

I sympathise with this view in general and with her situation having kids she won't be able to see for 10 years. But us I understand in this specific case she played an important role in driving one of her employees to suicide, and her fraud concerning her tech is not just financial, it was giving people false information about their health, including cancer - which is close to violence to me. In fact my sympathy with this case is not that it is too harsh for a small crime (fraud), it is that the crime is so huge that she must have been psychopath and might deserve mental treatment. Genuinely how can someone live with giving hundred of thousands of people false health information based on a test they know is garbage?

dataengineer56 3y ago

She is dangerous to other people. Let's not forget that this was medical fraud - people's lives were affected due to bad diagnoses.

Daub 3y ago

> I think only people who are violent and dangerous to other people should be locked up, and even then only until they are no longer dangerous. What about people who knowingly allow the blood of cancer patents to be tested using technology which they know does not work?

failbuffer 3y ago

You're discounting the deterrent effect. Defrauding investors has a huge negative impact on society, to say nothing of bogus blood test results, deceiving regulators, and ruthlessly threatening legal actions against whistleblowers and journalists.