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It is not a real prison. She will probably go to Bryan Minimum Security [1][2]. No fences. Dormitories. Visitations. Gym, etc. The fine is large, but symbolic.

It is not a real prison. She will probably go to Bryan Minimum Security [1][2]. No fences. Dormitories. Visitations. Gym, etc. The fine is large, but symbolic. From the article, chance of full recovery is very low. No mention, if this would be converted to house arrest at some point. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Bryan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Bryan [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Holmes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Holmes

atoav 3y ago
Where I live the goal of prison is rehabilitation, not the ever greater fulfilment of a christianity-induced punishment fetish (and there are studies that support that the former is more effective at returning you functioning, tax-paying members of society once the sentence is over). So while I agree that in the US white colar criminals tend to suspiciously often get the lighter punishment and that this fact is a glaring injustice, I think the US prison system as a whole is so utterly misconstructed, that this cricicism is a drop in a vast ocean of injustices.
- WalterBright 3y ago
  Why shouldn't nonviolent offenders go to a minimum security prison?
  - atoav 3y ago
    Did I say that they should not? The point based system you have for assigning people to prison types might look fair, but coupled with predictive policing (aka positive feedback) and the police-tendency to let crimes slip for some demographics and not others, it leads to injustice.
madsbuch 3y ago
interesting that it sounds like a bad thing that the prison is minimum security. As a Dane the American prison system baffles me. it obviously doesn't work and has commercial interests to the entire countrys detriment. yet I still feel this schadenfreude and the sentiment that sentences should be rougher and longer. where does this societal incongruence come from?
- gizmo 3y ago
  Because people have gotten life sentences for petty crimes like stealing a pair of socks. You have to compare Holmes’ case with how other people get crushed by the criminal justice system, and then you can’t help but notice the double standard. https://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/25/a_life_sentence_for_stealing_socks https://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/25/a_life_sentence_for_...

atoav 3y ago

Where I live the goal of prison is rehabilitation, not the ever greater fulfilment of a christianity-induced punishment fetish (and there are studies that support that the former is more effective at returning you functioning, tax-paying members of society once the sentence is over). So while I agree that in the US white colar criminals tend to suspiciously often get the lighter punishment and that this fact is a glaring injustice, I think the US prison system as a whole is so utterly misconstructed, that this cricicism is a drop in a vast ocean of injustices.

WalterBright 3y ago
Why shouldn't nonviolent offenders go to a minimum security prison?
- atoav 3y ago
  Did I say that they should not? The point based system you have for assigning people to prison types might look fair, but coupled with predictive policing (aka positive feedback) and the police-tendency to let crimes slip for some demographics and not others, it leads to injustice.

madsbuch 3y ago

interesting that it sounds like a bad thing that the prison is minimum security. As a Dane the American prison system baffles me. it obviously doesn't work and has commercial interests to the entire countrys detriment. yet I still feel this schadenfreude and the sentiment that sentences should be rougher and longer. where does this societal incongruence come from?

gizmo 3y ago
Because people have gotten life sentences for petty crimes like stealing a pair of socks. You have to compare Holmes’ case with how other people get crushed by the criminal justice system, and then you can’t help but notice the double standard. https://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/25/a_life_sentence_for_stealing_socks https://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/25/a_life_sentence_for_...