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As opposed to mail fraud -- basically any kind of fraud committed via electronic communication. At the time they would have been thinking of telegrams and phone
by djur 3y ago
As opposed to mail fraud -- basically any kind of fraud committed via electronic communication. At the time they would have been thinking of telegrams and phones, but the statute covers fraudulent materials "transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication", so that covers the Internet as well.
- fastball 3y agoIf you commit all your fraud via Starlink, could you make the argument that you didn't do it over wire?
- alexdunmow 3y agoThere's definitely a wire somewhere in the mix. Probably more than one!
- _gv1a 3y agoIt includes "radio".
- peterfirefly 3y agoAh, but what about the lasers?
- Ekaros 3y agoHigh frequency radio signals?
- pulse7 3y agoThat is certainly not possible, because there is a wire between Starlink router and Starlink antenna! :)
- fardo 3y agoYou can try almost anything in a courtroom, whether something’s likely to work is wholly another matter. When in doubt, legal processes tend to try to defer to precedent and prior case law. My guess is they would see a parallel between other also-not-really-telegraph-wire technologies on which others were convicted of wire fraud, and a Starlink connection. This means it probably wouldn’t legally be treated as appreciably different from any other current physical or wireless connection.
- no_time 3y agoThe court will argue that even your so-called wireless device has wires inside it.
- denton-scratch 3y agoI thought the term "wire fraud" meant "wire" in the sense of "telegraph". That is, it's fraud relying on telecommunications, which could include landline telephone, satellite, microwave, radio or internet. Have I got that wrong?
- no_time 3y agoYou are correct. It was a bad joke on my part.
- Ekaros 3y agoHmm smoke singnals, semaphores and International Code of Signals. I think the correct way is to pick something really old... Now your co-conspirators likely will screw it up.