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Never put a router without open source firmware on the open Internet. It's that simple. The right tool for the job. (OTOH I advice against using Linux as your d

by chx 3y ago

Never put a router without open source firmware on the open Internet. It's that simple. The right tool for the job. (OTOH I advice against using Linux as your daily driver on any modern laptop. Once again, the right tool for the job and that's Windows + WSL.)

kelnos 3y ago
> Windows + WSL Hard pass. Not interested in Microsoft's latest malware/adware of an OS. I've been running Linux on laptops for nearly 20 years now. Sure, it was a pain in the ass in the earlier days, but nowadays things just work, as long as you're willing to do your research ahead of time to choose a laptop where the hardware is fully supported.
- ricardobayes 3y ago
  You're biased. Win 11 doesn't have third-party ads of any kind, unlike iOS's app store, for example. It was always news, videos etc. Recommended content. Moreover, ubuntu famously had an Amazon button on the home page, yet no is going around touting "Linux is riddled with adware".
  - fsflover 3y ago
    I looks like Ubuntu was created just in order to be able to dismiss Linux as "riddled with adware". It's just a single distribution out of a hundred, and far from the best, so it's completely wrong of course.
    - rejectfinite 3y ago
      >I looks like Ubuntu was created just in order to be able to dismiss Linux as "riddled with adware". Yes of course it was. The only reason. Delusuional. You think some conspiracy created Ubuntu so people can point to the Amazon thing?
      - msla 3y ago
        You missed the joke, and you still don't get that Ubuntu is not the whole of Linux.
        rejectfinite 3y ago
        Sorry :(
  - okwhateverdude 3y ago
    A wild strawman appears! But seriously, it isn't 3rd party ads that GP was complaining about. That said, if the OS is aggressively pushing recommendations for their first party news, videos, and search engine, and every one of those things shows 3rd party ads, I don't think that single step removed absolves win 11.
  - lproven 3y ago
    > Win 11 doesn't have third-party ads of any kind, This is flatly untrue. It preinstalls Spotify, Disney+, Instagram, Facebook, Tiktok, and a tonne of other tools. A list with screenshots: https://www.digitalcitizen.life/windows-10-bloatware/ https://www.digitalcitizen.life/windows-10-bloatware/ If you want to argue that preinstalled links to 3rd party websites, prominently displayed in the Start menu, do not count as "ads", then you are acting in bad faith and your arguments can be dismissed. A bundled link to external properties is an advertisement.
ur-whale 3y ago
> Once again, the right tool for the job and that's Windows + WSL. Some of us like to keep our work device ad-free
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  Work? I don't want ads on my personal devices either!
M3L0NM4N 3y ago
I use Windows + WSL, but I would switch to Mac for dev in a heartbeat.
hammyhavoc 3y ago
The right tool is the one that's right for the task at hand, and that varies drastically.
kristianp 3y ago
If you want high performance from your Linux code, and to use large amounts of memory, Linux on the metal is much better. Thinkpads have great compatibility in my experience.
programmer_dude 3y ago
LOL.
greyw 3y ago
ASUS botnet is no good but the windows one is just fine
numpad0 3y ago
Windows + WSL is great for many use cases, but it makes no sense as a router OS...

by chx 3y ago

kelnos 3y ago

> Windows + WSL Hard pass. Not interested in Microsoft's latest malware/adware of an OS. I've been running Linux on laptops for nearly 20 years now. Sure, it was a pain in the ass in the earlier days, but nowadays things just work, as long as you're willing to do your research ahead of time to choose a laptop where the hardware is fully supported.

ricardobayes 3y ago
You're biased. Win 11 doesn't have third-party ads of any kind, unlike iOS's app store, for example. It was always news, videos etc. Recommended content. Moreover, ubuntu famously had an Amazon button on the home page, yet no is going around touting "Linux is riddled with adware".
- fsflover 3y ago
  I looks like Ubuntu was created just in order to be able to dismiss Linux as "riddled with adware". It's just a single distribution out of a hundred, and far from the best, so it's completely wrong of course.
  - rejectfinite 3y ago
    >I looks like Ubuntu was created just in order to be able to dismiss Linux as "riddled with adware". Yes of course it was. The only reason. Delusuional. You think some conspiracy created Ubuntu so people can point to the Amazon thing?
    - msla 3y ago
      You missed the joke, and you still don't get that Ubuntu is not the whole of Linux.
      - rejectfinite 3y ago
        Sorry :(
- okwhateverdude 3y ago
  A wild strawman appears! But seriously, it isn't 3rd party ads that GP was complaining about. That said, if the OS is aggressively pushing recommendations for their first party news, videos, and search engine, and every one of those things shows 3rd party ads, I don't think that single step removed absolves win 11.
- lproven 3y ago
  > Win 11 doesn't have third-party ads of any kind, This is flatly untrue. It preinstalls Spotify, Disney+, Instagram, Facebook, Tiktok, and a tonne of other tools. A list with screenshots: https://www.digitalcitizen.life/windows-10-bloatware/ https://www.digitalcitizen.life/windows-10-bloatware/ If you want to argue that preinstalled links to 3rd party websites, prominently displayed in the Start menu, do not count as "ads", then you are acting in bad faith and your arguments can be dismissed. A bundled link to external properties is an advertisement.

ur-whale 3y ago

> Once again, the right tool for the job and that's Windows + WSL. Some of us like to keep our work device ad-free

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
Work? I don't want ads on my personal devices either!

M3L0NM4N 3y ago

I use Windows + WSL, but I would switch to Mac for dev in a heartbeat.

hammyhavoc 3y ago

The right tool is the one that's right for the task at hand, and that varies drastically.

kristianp 3y ago

If you want high performance from your Linux code, and to use large amounts of memory, Linux on the metal is much better. Thinkpads have great compatibility in my experience.

programmer_dude 3y ago

LOL.

greyw 3y ago

ASUS botnet is no good but the windows one is just fine

numpad0 3y ago

Windows + WSL is great for many use cases, but it makes no sense as a router OS...