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Radio, television, and print ads are "server side". Somehow they still manage to work. We don't have to lose all of our agency just because the jerks in marketi

Radio, television, and print ads are "server side". Somehow they still manage to work. We don't have to lose all of our agency just because the jerks in marketing have no ethical standards and most people aren't aware enough to stop their excesses.

arp242 3y ago
I kind of agree with you, but on the other hand you either also paid for it – either directly as in newspapers or indirectly via taxes as for some public TV with limited ads – or they were plastered with ads from top to bottom. So there is perhaps a bit of a balance to be struck. When Google Ads first started way back in the day they were simple fast text ads with content relative to the page you were reading. Since then ... a lot has changed, but I don't think the basic principle of it is necessarily wrong, just the implementation. You can redirect people to porn sites without JS too by the way; via a HTTP header or a meta tag. If they can inject JS they can probably also inject one of those. Don't think you can really blame JS as such for that kind of stuff.
- brigandish 3y ago
  > You can redirect people to porn sites without JS too by the way; via a HTTP header or a meta tag. If they can inject JS they can probably also inject one of those. Don't think you can really blame JS as such for that kind of stuff. How? Genuinely interested to know how this attack happens without a click from the user.
  - wildpeaks 3y ago
    Using HTTP status 301/302 or HTML meta tag http-equiv="refresh". See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_302 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_302 and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/meta#http-equiv https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/me...
    - brigandish 3y ago
      That only happens on first load, how is that equivalent to Javascript?

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Radio, television, and print ads are "server side". Somehow they still manage to work. We don't have to lose all of our agency just because the jerks in marketi

by kevin_thibedeau 3y ago

arp242 3y ago
I kind of agree with you, but on the other hand you either also paid for it – either directly as in newspapers or indirectly via taxes as for some public TV with limited ads – or they were plastered with ads from top to bottom. So there is perhaps a bit of a balance to be struck. When Google Ads first started way back in the day they were simple fast text ads with content relative to the page you were reading. Since then ... a lot has changed, but I don't think the basic principle of it is necessarily wrong, just the implementation. You can redirect people to porn sites without JS too by the way; via a HTTP header or a meta tag. If they can inject JS they can probably also inject one of those. Don't think you can really blame JS as such for that kind of stuff.
- brigandish 3y ago
  > You can redirect people to porn sites without JS too by the way; via a HTTP header or a meta tag. If they can inject JS they can probably also inject one of those. Don't think you can really blame JS as such for that kind of stuff. How? Genuinely interested to know how this attack happens without a click from the user.
  - wildpeaks 3y ago
    Using HTTP status 301/302 or HTML meta tag http-equiv="refresh". See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_302 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_302 and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/meta#http-equiv https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/me...
    - brigandish 3y ago
      That only happens on first load, how is that equivalent to Javascript?