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No, we're not. See my comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35980451 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35980451 But more to answer the OP, we've b

by yegg 3y ago

No, we're not. See my comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35980451 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35980451 But more to answer the OP, we've been making a lot of investments to improve our results (along with other things) -- high-level updates posted quarterly at https://duckduckgo.com/updates https://duckduckgo.com/updates

pb7 3y ago
Why did you remove the page that showed your historical traffic?
tangotango2 3y ago
Thank you, I'be been using ddg for last 3 years as default in my phone and pc and its been awesome, dont need google anymore.
- aidenn0 3y ago
  I use ddg as my daily driver for about 3 years as well. I do find that searching things like exact error messages from programs are a bit better with !g, but almost all other searches are comparable or better.
pie420 3y ago
Please change the search results so that when I search "X + reddit" all of the search results are reddit, not just the first two.
- yamtaddle 3y ago
  Actually, now that you mention it, maybe that's my problem with SO searches I called out in another post. Maybe they've got some kind of same-source limit that becomes a major hindrance when you expect most results to be from a single source. I almost never get more than two SO links for a search on DDG, and very often neither is what I need—Google gives me a bunch more, and usually at least one is helpful. And it hadn't occurred to me, but I often end up tossing in a "!g" to reddit searches for a similar reason: not enough results are from Reddit, on DDG. (yes, I could probably do some kind of "site:reddit.com" or something, but "!g" is faster to type and gets the job done)
- yegg 3y ago
  Have you been using the new button we put there to do that? (I realize you still have to press the button, but curious if you are liking it.)
  - prettychill 3y ago
    what button? I must be blind... This would be very useful because "x reddit" is probably my most common search
    - yegg 3y ago
      Sorry, looks like this new feature is being re-tooled today, but should be up again within a few days!
- 16bitvoid 3y ago
  I personally just use "X site:reddit.com". It's more verbose, but it does what you want. EDIT: There's also a !bang that does the same thing: !ddgr
- lost_tourist 3y ago
  what's wrong with site:reddit.com $search1 $search2 ?
certik 3y ago
If you are not a Bing frontend, do you think it would be please possible to unblock our Fortran webpage at fortran-lang.org? See here for details: https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/fortran-lang-no-longer-in-bing/4942 https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/fortran-lang-no-longe... Bing decided to remove it for some reason and DDG now also removes it from search results, presumably because it uses Bing underneath. For Google it's #1 page when you search "fortran".
- yegg 3y ago
  Yes, I'll look into it.
  - certik 3y ago
    Thank you, we really appreciate it!
orhmeh09 3y ago
This seems incredible to me. The raw results are obviously very close. I get the same results in the same order for searching 'uefi hack': https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack And the exclusion filters fail identically, on "uefi hack -bootkit": https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit And partially succeed identically: 'uefi hack "absolute computrace"': https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computrace%22 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computrace%2... https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computrace%22 https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computra... The only differences seem to be the suggestions, infoboxes and similar "value adds."
- Kiro 3y ago
  Reading between the lines it sounds like they are only using their own crawlers and other partners for things like widgets, while all their regular search results are still just Bing.
- karaterobot 3y ago
  I was going to say that if the two search engines index and rank in a similar way, you would expect the search to be similar. But, for the `uefi hack` search, the results really are pretty close to identical, and when I do the same search on Kagi and Google, I get different results. I still don't know if it proves anything, but it's a little suspicious.

by yegg 3y ago

pb7 3y ago

Why did you remove the page that showed your historical traffic?

tangotango2 3y ago

Thank you, I'be been using ddg for last 3 years as default in my phone and pc and its been awesome, dont need google anymore.

aidenn0 3y ago
I use ddg as my daily driver for about 3 years as well. I do find that searching things like exact error messages from programs are a bit better with !g, but almost all other searches are comparable or better.

pie420 3y ago

Please change the search results so that when I search "X + reddit" all of the search results are reddit, not just the first two.

yamtaddle 3y ago
Actually, now that you mention it, maybe that's my problem with SO searches I called out in another post. Maybe they've got some kind of same-source limit that becomes a major hindrance when you expect most results to be from a single source. I almost never get more than two SO links for a search on DDG, and very often neither is what I need—Google gives me a bunch more, and usually at least one is helpful. And it hadn't occurred to me, but I often end up tossing in a "!g" to reddit searches for a similar reason: not enough results are from Reddit, on DDG. (yes, I could probably do some kind of "site:reddit.com" or something, but "!g" is faster to type and gets the job done)
yegg 3y ago
Have you been using the new button we put there to do that? (I realize you still have to press the button, but curious if you are liking it.)
- prettychill 3y ago
  what button? I must be blind... This would be very useful because "x reddit" is probably my most common search
  - yegg 3y ago
    Sorry, looks like this new feature is being re-tooled today, but should be up again within a few days!
16bitvoid 3y ago
I personally just use "X site:reddit.com". It's more verbose, but it does what you want. EDIT: There's also a !bang that does the same thing: !ddgr
lost_tourist 3y ago
what's wrong with site:reddit.com $search1 $search2 ?

certik 3y ago

If you are not a Bing frontend, do you think it would be please possible to unblock our Fortran webpage at fortran-lang.org? See here for details: https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/fortran-lang-no-longer-in-bing/4942 https://fortran-lang.discourse.group/t/fortran-lang-no-longe... Bing decided to remove it for some reason and DDG now also removes it from search results, presumably because it uses Bing underneath. For Google it's #1 page when you search "fortran".

yegg 3y ago
Yes, I'll look into it.
- certik 3y ago
  Thank you, we really appreciate it!

orhmeh09 3y ago

This seems incredible to me. The raw results are obviously very close. I get the same results in the same order for searching 'uefi hack': https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack And the exclusion filters fail identically, on "uefi hack -bootkit": https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+-bootkit And partially succeed identically: 'uefi hack "absolute computrace"': https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computrace%22 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computrace%2... https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computrace%22 https://www.bing.com/search?q=uefi+hack+%22absolute+computra... The only differences seem to be the suggestions, infoboxes and similar "value adds."

Kiro 3y ago
Reading between the lines it sounds like they are only using their own crawlers and other partners for things like widgets, while all their regular search results are still just Bing.
karaterobot 3y ago
I was going to say that if the two search engines index and rank in a similar way, you would expect the search to be similar. But, for the `uefi hack` search, the results really are pretty close to identical, and when I do the same search on Kagi and Google, I get different results. I still don't know if it proves anything, but it's a little suspicious.