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No. In situations like this the best you can hope for is that his incentives aren't at odds with the rest of humanity.

by mxkopy 3y ago

boringPragma 3y ago
Exacerbating ecological disaster building more and more resource and energy hungry data centers does not seem aligned with the rest of humanity I have been running ML on my personal data and modeling worlds for the last few years. There’s no reason to keep OpenAI around given open source. My own data does not need a river water cooled data center. OpenAIs ONLY moat is a government one so governments can keep up the free market ruse but have OpenAI in its back pocket for military and intelligence applications
bostonsre 3y ago
Wouldn't it be an almost comical level of supervilliany for him to believe that agi is coming and to only care about his company profitting? It seems pretty plausible that agi terrifies him, that he knows it can be done by a lot of different players, and that he wants it to happen as gracefully as possible. If I put myself in his shoes, I would be terrified and asking for some guardrails too. He seems musk like where he has enough money to not care about making more money.
- mxkopy 3y ago
  If you do work in AI you're not worried about AGI, period. It's fine that the average layman feels like they're in Terminator but anyone who's written and trained models knows that it's just silly. We shouldn't really expect Sam Altman to do any better than perpetuating fear and hype because of the amount of money on the line. It's nice to think that you can have so much money you stop caring about it but it doesn't really make sense. You don't get to personally keep billions of dollars without caring about money.
  - bostonsre 3y ago
    I've seen a lot of people that work in AI express concerns about the impact on society as we progress towards AGI. We don't need to reach AGI for there to be a huge impact on society whether its negative or positive. OpenAI's tool is already having an impact on jobs, it seems straight forward to extrapolate that there will be larger impacts on society as models improve. I would still assert that it would be a comical level of supervillainy for Sam to only care about his companies profits over any potential negative impacts on society. It seems highly plausible that he could not be a sociopath and have empathy and actually cares about limiting negative impacts of these tools. > It's nice to think that you can have so much money you stop caring about it but it doesn't really make sense. You don't get to personally keep billions of dollars without caring about money. It is definitely not every billionaire that thinks like this but there are some that seem to not care too much about material possessions like Musk or Sam. Their endeavors seem to be the things that they care about the most and they don't seem to be doing it to attain the most amount of money possible.

No. In situations like this the best you can hope for is that his incentives aren't at odds with the rest of humanity.

by mxkopy 3y ago

No. In situations like this the best you can hope for is that his incentives aren't at odds with the rest of humanity.

Exacerbating ecological disaster building more and more resource and energy hungry data centers does not seem aligned with the rest of humanity I have been running ML on my personal data and modeling worlds for the last few years. There’s no reason to keep OpenAI around given open source. My own data does not need a river water cooled data center. OpenAIs ONLY moat is a government one so governments can keep up the free market ruse but have OpenAI in its back pocket for military and intelligence applications

bostonsre 3y ago

Wouldn't it be an almost comical level of supervilliany for him to believe that agi is coming and to only care about his company profitting? It seems pretty plausible that agi terrifies him, that he knows it can be done by a lot of different players, and that he wants it to happen as gracefully as possible. If I put myself in his shoes, I would be terrified and asking for some guardrails too. He seems musk like where he has enough money to not care about making more money.

mxkopy 3y ago
If you do work in AI you're not worried about AGI, period. It's fine that the average layman feels like they're in Terminator but anyone who's written and trained models knows that it's just silly. We shouldn't really expect Sam Altman to do any better than perpetuating fear and hype because of the amount of money on the line. It's nice to think that you can have so much money you stop caring about it but it doesn't really make sense. You don't get to personally keep billions of dollars without caring about money.
- bostonsre 3y ago
  I've seen a lot of people that work in AI express concerns about the impact on society as we progress towards AGI. We don't need to reach AGI for there to be a huge impact on society whether its negative or positive. OpenAI's tool is already having an impact on jobs, it seems straight forward to extrapolate that there will be larger impacts on society as models improve. I would still assert that it would be a comical level of supervillainy for Sam to only care about his companies profits over any potential negative impacts on society. It seems highly plausible that he could not be a sociopath and have empathy and actually cares about limiting negative impacts of these tools. > It's nice to think that you can have so much money you stop caring about it but it doesn't really make sense. You don't get to personally keep billions of dollars without caring about money. It is definitely not every billionaire that thinks like this but there are some that seem to not care too much about material possessions like Musk or Sam. Their endeavors seem to be the things that they care about the most and they don't seem to be doing it to attain the most amount of money possible.