> It's not all about number limits. It's about healthcare and support. Sure, but numbers can be compared objectively. > there is no major stigma associated wi

> It's not all about number limits. It's about healthcare and support. Sure, but numbers can be compared objectively. > there is no major stigma associated with abortion [in Germany] I agree, there is a lot more stigma in the US, especially in more socially conservative circles. > If there's serious danger for the mother, it's unlimited. This is also true in every US state the last time I checked. > As far as I know, the situation in france and UK are somewhat similar. France and UK have an abortion rate twice as high (~17 per 1000 women) as Germany (~8/1000)[0]. So at least there is enough of a difference that Germans get only half as many abortions as the French or the Britons. For comparison, the US is sandwiched between Bulgaria and Sweden, around ~21/1000. > a talking point, created to fool americans I'm not trying to fool anyone. I'm just examining the claim that women in the US, even those in conservative states, are hopelessly oppressed with regards to abortion, so much so that they should be depressed about it. [0]: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-...