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Her investors were war criminals Specifically?

by lisasays 3y ago

sdfghswe 3y ago
He's referring to Kissinger, obviously.
- tehjoker 3y ago
  Yep, also Mattis and Shultz
  - vkou 3y ago
    Who is responsible for deployment of incendiary weapons, including white phosphorus against civilians. (Obviously, EH is a criminal and a fraud, even if she's defrauding other criminals.)
    - tehjoker 3y ago
      Agreed. I'm not saying she isn't merely that we should think about why is this happening to her and not others with the implication that many more elites should be in prison not that she should get off.
  - lisasays 3y ago
    Agreed on Kissinger and Mattis. I need more substantiation in regard to Shultz (beyond his delusional policy supports, here and there).
jeromegv 3y ago
Henry Kissinger
tehjoker 3y ago
https://news.crunchbase.com/health-wellness-biotech/theranos-elizabeth-holmes-trial-investors-board/ https://news.crunchbase.com/health-wellness-biotech/theranos... Board of directors Henry Kissinger (former United States Secretary of State); Jim Mattis (retired Marine Corps four-star general); George Shultz (former United States Secretary of State); Richard Kovacevich (former CEO of Wells Fargo); William Perry (former United States Secretary of Defense); and William Foege (former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention). Investors Media mogul Rupert Murdoch, who led a $5.8 million Series A in February 2005; Venture capitalist and Draper Fisher Jurvetson partner Tim Draper, who remained an outspoken defender of Theranos at least until 2018; Oracle Executive Chairman and founder Larry Ellison; and National pharmacy and retail chain Walgreens.
- 5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
  damn, i kind of like her now...
- cgb223 3y ago
  How do these Secretary’s of State and Generals end up on boards like this? Like how do they find the company in the first place? Who connects SecDef Mattis with a blood test company? what value do they gain out of being on it measurably? Equity? Salary? and once there what do they really do? Does Henry Kissinger really have a connection to the modern day FDA to move things along for Theranos?
  - vkou 3y ago
    > How do these Secretary’s of State and Generals end up on boards like this? They get jobs on these boards, because the owners of the company want them on the board, because they have friends who can grease the wheels in getting the DOD to buy services from this startup. It's just plain-old corruption. As long as it's not formally quid-pro-quo, it's not illegal. > Does Henry Kissinger really have a connection to the modern day FDA to move things along for Theranos? He probably can't move the FDA, their process is too streamlined and public, and they may be under too much of a microscope, but he almost certainly has friends who can move some less-public/streamlined/visible processes - procurement.
    - lisasays 3y ago
      It's just plain-old corruption Yup - as with Dropbox's tapping of Condoleeza Rice. Lest we forget: https://www.drop-dropbox.com/ https://www.drop-dropbox.com/
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  'On April 21, 2018, Draper predicted during an Intelligence Squared debate that "In five years you are going to try to go buy coffee with fiat currency and they are going to laugh at you because you're not using crypto."' Nice! No, Tim, I'm laughing at you. There are so many crazy VC's.

Her investors were war criminals Specifically?

sdfghswe 3y ago

He's referring to Kissinger, obviously.

tehjoker 3y ago
Yep, also Mattis and Shultz
- vkou 3y ago
  Who is responsible for deployment of incendiary weapons, including white phosphorus against civilians. (Obviously, EH is a criminal and a fraud, even if she's defrauding other criminals.)
  - tehjoker 3y ago
    Agreed. I'm not saying she isn't merely that we should think about why is this happening to her and not others with the implication that many more elites should be in prison not that she should get off.
- lisasays 3y ago
  Agreed on Kissinger and Mattis. I need more substantiation in regard to Shultz (beyond his delusional policy supports, here and there).

jeromegv 3y ago

Henry Kissinger

tehjoker 3y ago

https://news.crunchbase.com/health-wellness-biotech/theranos-elizabeth-holmes-trial-investors-board/ https://news.crunchbase.com/health-wellness-biotech/theranos... Board of directors Henry Kissinger (former United States Secretary of State); Jim Mattis (retired Marine Corps four-star general); George Shultz (former United States Secretary of State); Richard Kovacevich (former CEO of Wells Fargo); William Perry (former United States Secretary of Defense); and William Foege (former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention). Investors Media mogul Rupert Murdoch, who led a $5.8 million Series A in February 2005; Venture capitalist and Draper Fisher Jurvetson partner Tim Draper, who remained an outspoken defender of Theranos at least until 2018; Oracle Executive Chairman and founder Larry Ellison; and National pharmacy and retail chain Walgreens.

5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
damn, i kind of like her now...
cgb223 3y ago
How do these Secretary’s of State and Generals end up on boards like this? Like how do they find the company in the first place? Who connects SecDef Mattis with a blood test company? what value do they gain out of being on it measurably? Equity? Salary? and once there what do they really do? Does Henry Kissinger really have a connection to the modern day FDA to move things along for Theranos?
- vkou 3y ago
  > How do these Secretary’s of State and Generals end up on boards like this? They get jobs on these boards, because the owners of the company want them on the board, because they have friends who can grease the wheels in getting the DOD to buy services from this startup. It's just plain-old corruption. As long as it's not formally quid-pro-quo, it's not illegal. > Does Henry Kissinger really have a connection to the modern day FDA to move things along for Theranos? He probably can't move the FDA, their process is too streamlined and public, and they may be under too much of a microscope, but he almost certainly has friends who can move some less-public/streamlined/visible processes - procurement.
  - lisasays 3y ago
    It's just plain-old corruption Yup - as with Dropbox's tapping of Condoleeza Rice. Lest we forget: https://www.drop-dropbox.com/ https://www.drop-dropbox.com/
reducesuffering 3y ago
'On April 21, 2018, Draper predicted during an Intelligence Squared debate that "In five years you are going to try to go buy coffee with fiat currency and they are going to laugh at you because you're not using crypto."' Nice! No, Tim, I'm laughing at you. There are so many crazy VC's.