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I would appreciate also firmware, but that's likely to remain a dream. My biggest annoyances with HID-equipment of the past decade were keyboards with firmware

I would appreciate also firmware, but that's likely to remain a dream. My biggest annoyances with HID-equipment of the past decade were keyboards with firmware bugs (i.e. not accepting key-combos in all orders due to some QA-oversight, not having Home/End on Fn+<Left>/<Right>,...). Right now I'm writing on a Dell KB7120W which occasionally "forgets" to send the Ctrl-key. Fun times whenever I want to expand a multiselect with additional items in a GUI and I lose the whole selection...

tailspin2019 3y ago
> I would appreciate also firmware, but that's likely to remain a dream. This was exactly my thought too. Not knocking the self-repair scheme, but in my experience there is quite a disparity between the (relatively high) quality of their hardware - at least with MX mice/keyboards - and the low (IMHO) quality of the firmware and software. I've never had any Logitech hardware fail but I have spent countless hours trying to fix or workaround their software/firmware. I've mostly replaced it all with Karabiner and Hammerspoon now, but I still can't actually use my devices to their full capabilities.
- eviks 3y ago
  Button switches aren't reliable, and yeah, the software is bad
mgdlbp 3y ago
A small number of consumer keyboards, and lots of DIY designs, some with prebuilt offerings, can run QMK or other open source firmware.
- rickdeckard 3y ago
  yeah, unfortunately there's no support for consumer keyboards with Bluetooth in QMK (understandably, it's an entirely different layer of complexity). I'm not a sufficient keyboard nerd, I just want a compact well-spaced portable keyboard with Bluetooth and multi-device support, possibly also rechargable. The market is full of such devices at decent pricing, but you need to cope with various firmware bugs which you only find after purchase...
  - syntonym2 3y ago
    ZMK [1] has support for Bluetooth, but I don't know how many keyboards (or any consumer keyboards at all) it supports. [1] https://zmk.dev/ https://zmk.dev/

tailspin2019 3y ago

> I would appreciate also firmware, but that's likely to remain a dream. This was exactly my thought too. Not knocking the self-repair scheme, but in my experience there is quite a disparity between the (relatively high) quality of their hardware - at least with MX mice/keyboards - and the low (IMHO) quality of the firmware and software. I've never had any Logitech hardware fail but I have spent countless hours trying to fix or workaround their software/firmware. I've mostly replaced it all with Karabiner and Hammerspoon now, but I still can't actually use my devices to their full capabilities.

eviks 3y ago
Button switches aren't reliable, and yeah, the software is bad

mgdlbp 3y ago

A small number of consumer keyboards, and lots of DIY designs, some with prebuilt offerings, can run QMK or other open source firmware.

rickdeckard 3y ago
yeah, unfortunately there's no support for consumer keyboards with Bluetooth in QMK (understandably, it's an entirely different layer of complexity). I'm not a sufficient keyboard nerd, I just want a compact well-spaced portable keyboard with Bluetooth and multi-device support, possibly also rechargable. The market is full of such devices at decent pricing, but you need to cope with various firmware bugs which you only find after purchase...
- syntonym2 3y ago
  ZMK [1] has support for Bluetooth, but I don't know how many keyboards (or any consumer keyboards at all) it supports. [1] https://zmk.dev/ https://zmk.dev/