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Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.
by bagacrap 3y ago
Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.
- waboremo 3y agoLegal issues. Dash cams aren't allowed universally, and even when they are they tend to have restrictions (how it's mounted, how footage is handled, etc). They've just decided dealing with this pain point is not worth the purchase conversions since users can just add one themselves. There are some brands that have them, usually as an additional package depending on where you are. Like Toyota's Genuine Dash in Canada, Tesla Dashcam, BMW Car Eye, etc.
- franga2000 3y agoAll you need is a toggle in the settings that is off by default. They also already deal with regional law differences regarding speed camera warnings, so it isn't an insane idea for them to maintain a list of countries where the feature is blocked (although that's not the solution I would prefer)
- oh_sigh 3y agoThe simple answer is that backup cameras are required by regulation for safety, whereas dashcams don't increase safety.
- mbrameld 3y ago> whereas dashcams don't increase safety I'd like to see your source for that claim!
- oh_sigh 3y agoWell, maybe the observer effect comes into play, but they don't directly, actively impact safety in the manner that backup cameras do.
- SoftTalker 3y agoReversing cameras don't increase safety on my cars, because I still turn my head and use the mirrors. Old habits die hard.
- mcast 3y agoYou would still have a major blind spot if a child or small animal is directly behind your car. The NHTSA estimated it would save over 70 lives per year (an underestimate), which is invaluable considering the small cost.
- SoftTalker 3y agoTrue, although I already check behind/around my car before I set off. I appreciate the motivitions of those who think technology is the answer to accident prevention but now you are discouraging people from developing proper safety habits ("I don't need to check around my car because the cameras/sensors will tell me if I'm going to hit something") and then one day a sensor fails or they are driving a car that doesn't have this technology. I already see this with my wife who has those little blinker lights in her side mirrors that warn if a car is next to you when you are changing lanes. She doesn't really look anymore, just makes sure the lights aren't blinking. I always turn my head and look; I don't trust the sensors and I also set my side mirrors to cover the typical blind spot. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15131074/how-to-adjust-your-mirrors-to-avoid-blind-spots/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15131074/how-to-adjus...
- jayknight 3y agoAnd for those of us who drive minivans, there are huge areas that you just can't see without a back up camera. You still look out windows and check all your mirrors, but being able to see the ground behind your car is important.
- newaccount74 3y agoUnfortunately rear windows have been getting smaller and smaller, so without backup cameras you have very limited vision.
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- ridgered4 3y agoI'd prefer cars just add standardized mount points with power and maybe data lines. Then I could install different cheap products I selected, or none at all.
- AHOHA 3y agoRemember when cars have standardized ashtrays?
- toast0 3y agoAshtrays were standard, but they were not standardized. Lots of different form factors, no consistency.
- newaccount74 3y agoWhy would they do that? Cars used to have slots that you could put your own radio in. Then manufacturers figured they make more if they sell you their own system for 2000€.
- olyjohn 3y agoTheir own systems are garbage too. I hate newer cars. I can build a better stereo with 5 speakers for under $500 and it would blow away what any car company can engineer into their 42 speaker stereo.
- phil21 3y agoThis is one of my larger personal pet peeves and hills I prefer to die on for no particular reason. I recently purchased a new car, and it has 23 cameras. 23. I can literally get a 360 degree view of my car on the display, and also directly tap into the rear/front/side cams. Why the @#$@# is there no port for an NVR, or a built-in NVR at least? Why do I need to deal with running wires through a brand new car, and sticking something ugly to my windshield? Very frustrating. I know some folks have made mod kits to tap into the equipped cameras for recording, I simply am not that committed to the cause.
- whimsicalism 3y agoCommited enough to die on the hill, but not that commited.
- seanalltogether 3y agoAs soon as car manufacturers implement dash cams, government will regulate it to require that it records the speed of the car as well, which I think owners will hate and make them want to avoid those models of cars. I think it's gonna end up as damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
- danans 3y ago> As soon as car manufacturers implement dash cams, government will regulate it to require that it records the speed of the car as well Why would a camera force this regulation when every car already has a ... speedometer?
- littledot5566 3y agoDoes a speedometer record how fast you were going 1 minute before the crash.
- hwbehrens 3y agoYes, since the mid-2000s in the U.S., at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_data_recorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_data_recorder https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-563 https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/p...
- gkfasdfasdf 3y agoTesla has been doing this for years. It is indeed unfortunate other car makers don't care to enable recording even though they have the cameras.