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An LLM might also create a meta-analysis questioning the value of the basic assumptions involved in the desirability of creating 'entirely new categories of pro

An LLM might also create a meta-analysis questioning the value of the basic assumptions involved in the desirability of creating 'entirely new categories of products' - which, if you look at the history of financial products invented in the United States over the past 40 years, has some validity. When Elon Musk et al. talk about 'slowing down AI' that's the kind of thing that seems to concern them. What if AI could make a convincing argument for unionization at Tesla and the institution of a VW-style system of corporate management? Very frightening, I guess...

dragonwriter 3y ago
> When Elon Musk et al. talk about 'slowing down AI' that's the kind of thing that seems to concern them. No, Musk’s concern is just that his AI venture is starting out behind, so slowing down AI lets him catch up.
- cubefox 3y ago
  How come you make such a disingenuous statement? He has warned about AI risk for 10 years. https://www.cnet.com/science/elon-musk-we-are-summoning-the-demon-with-artificial-intelligence/ https://www.cnet.com/science/elon-musk-we-are-summoning-the-... https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kzHJ5BRhgkj9CSQ3N/musk-on-agi-timeframes https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kzHJ5BRhgkj9CSQ3N/musk-on-ag... https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2015/01/15/elon-musk-puts-down-10-million-to-fight-skynet/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2015/01/15/elon-musk-p... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkRcrM6XKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkRcrM6XKA https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1647601906087329794 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1647601906087329794
  - cyphereal 3y ago
    Sure he warned of dangers, but also invested heavily in AI for autonomous driving by hiring DL researchers ("a million robot taxis by 2020"). He also invested in OpenAI until he had a falling out about who would be in charge of the company. He recently founded X.AI, which is supposedly also building generative AI. Everyone sees danger, but many, including Musk, are forging ahead.
  - kaba0 3y ago
    He is a scam artist with zero knowledge on anything. Just ignore him entirely.
    - cubefox 3y ago
      Sure, zero knowledge, and Tesla and SpaceX were just accidents. Got it.
      - kaba0 3y ago
        Both were existing companies bought up by him, with the "founder" title included. Also, paying salaries for talent is very different from having said talent oneself. He has no expert knowledge on anything, one might have thought that at least he is good at programming (paypal), but look at twitter, he ain't good even at that.
        cubefox 3y ago
        Sure. So Tesla and SpaceX got big by complete accident.

dragonwriter 3y ago

> When Elon Musk et al. talk about 'slowing down AI' that's the kind of thing that seems to concern them. No, Musk’s concern is just that his AI venture is starting out behind, so slowing down AI lets him catch up.

cubefox 3y ago
How come you make such a disingenuous statement? He has warned about AI risk for 10 years. https://www.cnet.com/science/elon-musk-we-are-summoning-the-demon-with-artificial-intelligence/ https://www.cnet.com/science/elon-musk-we-are-summoning-the-... https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kzHJ5BRhgkj9CSQ3N/musk-on-agi-timeframes https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kzHJ5BRhgkj9CSQ3N/musk-on-ag... https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2015/01/15/elon-musk-puts-down-10-million-to-fight-skynet/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2015/01/15/elon-musk-p... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkRcrM6XKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkRcrM6XKA https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1647601906087329794 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1647601906087329794
- cyphereal 3y ago
  Sure he warned of dangers, but also invested heavily in AI for autonomous driving by hiring DL researchers ("a million robot taxis by 2020"). He also invested in OpenAI until he had a falling out about who would be in charge of the company. He recently founded X.AI, which is supposedly also building generative AI. Everyone sees danger, but many, including Musk, are forging ahead.
- kaba0 3y ago
  He is a scam artist with zero knowledge on anything. Just ignore him entirely.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    Sure, zero knowledge, and Tesla and SpaceX were just accidents. Got it.
    - kaba0 3y ago
      Both were existing companies bought up by him, with the "founder" title included. Also, paying salaries for talent is very different from having said talent oneself. He has no expert knowledge on anything, one might have thought that at least he is good at programming (paypal), but look at twitter, he ain't good even at that.
      - cubefox 3y ago
        Sure. So Tesla and SpaceX got big by complete accident.