> > It's impossible to know the other's mind > Ask. Don't attack. I did. I said I made assumptions, and asked you to clarify. > Our culture seems to now have

> > It's impossible to know the other's mind > Ask. Don't attack. I did. I said I made assumptions, and asked you to clarify. > Our culture seems to now have the option to interpret the truth as denigration. Not a way to make things better at all. Your words were "We graduate ignorant young adults who are barely good enough to stack boxes at a warehouse or make coffee." Of course you're going to just say "the truth hurts" when you're called on that and prevented with someone else's experience that contradicts that. Like every other point you make you're just pulling it out of the air and not supporting it by any means. > Not sure what you are talking about. A bachelors in Europe takes three years and focuses on degree-related work. So? Do people that graduate there have better or worse outcomes and careers when presented with similar situations? Assuming the degrees are equivalent from the U.S. to Europe is the same as assuming every degree from every college in the U.S. is equivalent, or every High School graduates students with equivalent ability. Not only do I think that's completely unsupported in anything you've presented, I think it's very unlikely to be true. > You don't fix strengths. You fix failures. Do you think it's impossible to accidentally reduce or eliminate a strength on accident? I didn't think I was being obtuse, but I'll spell it out again: What if the thing you think is a weakness is actually a strength in other ways that you aren't considering, and by changing it you may make things worse rather than better? Europe is not the U.S. What works there may not work the same here, as much as you seem to think you can just plug it into place. Maybe it would though. Have you even considered these aspects, or is your actual interest so shallow that you're only interested in saying that it would be better and ignoring any of the deeper aspects of what you're proposing? All that's really happening here is you making blanket assertions, me questioning them and asking for the bare minimum of actual thought and effort to support the in some evidenced way, and you making more assertions without evidence to try to support yourself. If you really truly believe what you're saying, don't you owe it to yourself to actually put a little effort into learning the actual details what you so vehemently assert? The questions I have, which you've been plainly unable to answer with any real data (or anything other than repeating yourself, really), are not hard, in my opinion. There what anyone that actually wanted a change and cared about the outcome would want to know.