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Have you tried gnome 42 or later? I actually went from macos to gnome and while there are some differences some of them seemed reasonable given the contributors

Have you tried gnome 42 or later? I actually went from macos to gnome and while there are some differences some of them seemed reasonable given the contributors capacity and all the forms they're trying to support. (I use it on a tablet PC, so the minimalism comes with enabling larger hit targets for buttons, decent multitouch support)

wkat4242 3y ago
Yeah I did but I was actually very unhappy with macOS (I think it's been steadily going downhill since 10.4 Tiger and I finally left it a few versions ago). And like I mentioned, the big window decorations on Gnome were annoying for me as I don't use touch at all. If there was a way to simply set them to be smaller (and change the hamburger menus to real menus) it would have been fine, but it offers none of that. Also there's some other things where I have my own opinions. For example, I like my virtual desktops laid out in a grid, not a row. Then I remap the numeric keypad to be a desktop switcher (I don't like keystroke combos, I use dedicated keys for almost everything). I have all my apps on specific desktops (and different browser windows on many!) so I know what is where. KDE allows me to configure all that right out of the box and it persists after a reboot. On Gnome I need so many plugins that I run into conflicts and version compatibility issues. It was not workable like that. Also, KDE has some great ideas like the "Activities" which was a great expansion to my workflow. It's basically several desktop environments in one.
2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
I use Gnome 44 on my Surface Go with Fedora 38 and it will stop responding to touch input until I plug in a keyboard and press <Esc> and then it's good until I log out or reboot. It's basically unusable and infuriating. There are few open issues on the gnome-shell Gitlab that seem to be related but languishing.
- seltzered_ 3y ago
  Yeah, pretty sure I know exactly the issue you're talking about. Tablet support isn't perfect and you still need a separate keyboard, and yet I'm tolerably happy with it all.
  - Saris 3y ago
    It's a little strange isn't it that a tablet specific DE doesn't really work well with tablets.
    - seltzered_ 3y ago
      I wouldn't consider it tablet-specific. More that it has an aspiration to support tablets, like the early days of windows 8.
    - kaba0 3y ago
      Why would it be tablet specific? It’s a minimalist DE which is very handy to control both on desktop, and especially on laptop (via swipe left-right on touchpad), and takes only a single line. Selecting the app you use from its overview is personally my favorite way to interact with my computer.

wkat4242 3y ago

Yeah I did but I was actually very unhappy with macOS (I think it's been steadily going downhill since 10.4 Tiger and I finally left it a few versions ago). And like I mentioned, the big window decorations on Gnome were annoying for me as I don't use touch at all. If there was a way to simply set them to be smaller (and change the hamburger menus to real menus) it would have been fine, but it offers none of that. Also there's some other things where I have my own opinions. For example, I like my virtual desktops laid out in a grid, not a row. Then I remap the numeric keypad to be a desktop switcher (I don't like keystroke combos, I use dedicated keys for almost everything). I have all my apps on specific desktops (and different browser windows on many!) so I know what is where. KDE allows me to configure all that right out of the box and it persists after a reboot. On Gnome I need so many plugins that I run into conflicts and version compatibility issues. It was not workable like that. Also, KDE has some great ideas like the "Activities" which was a great expansion to my workflow. It's basically several desktop environments in one.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

I use Gnome 44 on my Surface Go with Fedora 38 and it will stop responding to touch input until I plug in a keyboard and press <Esc> and then it's good until I log out or reboot. It's basically unusable and infuriating. There are few open issues on the gnome-shell Gitlab that seem to be related but languishing.

seltzered_ 3y ago
Yeah, pretty sure I know exactly the issue you're talking about. Tablet support isn't perfect and you still need a separate keyboard, and yet I'm tolerably happy with it all.
- Saris 3y ago
  It's a little strange isn't it that a tablet specific DE doesn't really work well with tablets.
  - seltzered_ 3y ago
    I wouldn't consider it tablet-specific. More that it has an aspiration to support tablets, like the early days of windows 8.
  - kaba0 3y ago
    Why would it be tablet specific? It’s a minimalist DE which is very handy to control both on desktop, and especially on laptop (via swipe left-right on touchpad), and takes only a single line. Selecting the app you use from its overview is personally my favorite way to interact with my computer.