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> Meanwhile on GNOME the situation is you can't control the keyboard brightness out of the box, because they decided all laptops with a keyboard backlight must

> Meanwhile on GNOME the situation is you can't control the keyboard brightness out of the box, because they decided all laptops with a keyboard backlight must surely have dedicated keys for that purpose and therefore there's no need for a slider nor configurable keybinds and... I wrote then lost a gnome hotkey plugin to help with this, as the desktop display my parents were using had a menu system they hated/couldnt manage to use. It's wild that Gnome has such a narrow lo-fi user as their only target persona, but they probably make a vast amount of their earned income selling to such users.

blacksmith_tb 3y ago
Gnome sells something? Other than t-shirts? I can't imagine they have 'vast income', they're a non-profit[1]... presumably if they did, Nautilus would work better... 1: https://foundation.gnome.org/ https://foundation.gnome.org/
- rektide 3y ago
  Gnome is the default desktop of Red Hat, whose target audience is definitely business. There hopefully are some breakdowns somewhere of where they get funding from. But I expect Red Hat gives them a bunch of money. Whether their income is "vast" or not, my statement was specifically about the relative proportions of where it comes from. I definitely expect them to have an overall fairly mild budget. But where it comes from, I think, has largely shaped their current strategy, which is to target extreme end users with little customizability.
  - blacksmith_tb 3y ago
    That makes sense, I guess I'd say that they have hewed closer to macOS in terms of not allowing for much customization, which clearly alienates many users. I'd be more willing to toe their line if it all worked better, though.
    - beebeepka 3y ago
      Default gnome 3 doesn't make any sense. It's obvious they're making it horrible on purpose. I wonder why I have to install extensions for the most basic stuff.
- klooney 3y ago
  Red Hat and SUSE (Maybe not anymore?) pay for a lot of the developer time.
  - rurban 3y ago
    Suse is entirely sold on KDE Plasma
    - the_why_of_y 3y ago
      Please try to find KDE on this page: https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/ https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/ > SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop includes the X.org server, Wayland and the GNOME desktop. https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/html/SLED-all/cha-gui-desktop.html https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/html/SLED-all/cha...

blacksmith_tb 3y ago

Gnome sells something? Other than t-shirts? I can't imagine they have 'vast income', they're a non-profit[1]... presumably if they did, Nautilus would work better... 1: https://foundation.gnome.org/ https://foundation.gnome.org/

rektide 3y ago
Gnome is the default desktop of Red Hat, whose target audience is definitely business. There hopefully are some breakdowns somewhere of where they get funding from. But I expect Red Hat gives them a bunch of money. Whether their income is "vast" or not, my statement was specifically about the relative proportions of where it comes from. I definitely expect them to have an overall fairly mild budget. But where it comes from, I think, has largely shaped their current strategy, which is to target extreme end users with little customizability.
- blacksmith_tb 3y ago
  That makes sense, I guess I'd say that they have hewed closer to macOS in terms of not allowing for much customization, which clearly alienates many users. I'd be more willing to toe their line if it all worked better, though.
  - beebeepka 3y ago
    Default gnome 3 doesn't make any sense. It's obvious they're making it horrible on purpose. I wonder why I have to install extensions for the most basic stuff.
klooney 3y ago
Red Hat and SUSE (Maybe not anymore?) pay for a lot of the developer time.
- rurban 3y ago
  Suse is entirely sold on KDE Plasma
  - the_why_of_y 3y ago
    Please try to find KDE on this page: https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/ https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/ > SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop includes the X.org server, Wayland and the GNOME desktop. https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/html/SLED-all/cha-gui-desktop.html https://documentation.suse.com/sled/15-SP4/html/SLED-all/cha...