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If you keep up on maintenance and aren't riding around on blown shocks, sagging springs, etc. then 20 plus year old cars ride perfectly fine. I would gladly ri

If you keep up on maintenance and aren't riding around on blown shocks, sagging springs, etc. then 20 plus year old cars ride perfectly fine. I would gladly ride around in a Lexus LS400 or Mercedes S class from 1992 in great condition vs. a brand new Honda Civic.

pcurve 3y ago
Me too. Most XF30 LS430 are still amazing condition, and I consider it to be the last LS with original Lexus DNA.
hgsgm 3y ago
Civics are amazing cars.
- qbasic_forever 3y ago
  They're nice but they are designed to a cheaper consumer price point. The LS400 and top end luxury cars of 30 years ago were designed to be ultra smooth and comfortable. The LS400 had to be able to drive at 100mph+ on the autobahn without any vibration or noise from the engine felt in the cabin--it was an actual design requirement from the head of the company. If you've kept up on maintenance an old luxury car like that will drive just as smooth and comfortably as when new, and way more smooth than a new economy car.
kipchak 3y ago
My only concern with a car that old is crash safety, otherwise I think they're phenominal. Here's for example a 2nd gen LS400 and a new Civic IIHS tests[1]. There's some better photos on the IIHS' website, and actual measurements.[2] Rust can also impact the car's structural integrity and crash worthiness over the years.[3] [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDYbIFxJrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDYbIFxJrM [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSEKzv166Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSEKzv166Q [2]https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/ls-4-door-sedan/1997 https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/ls-4-door-sedan/1... [2]https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/Honda/civic-4-door-sedan/2022 https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/Honda/civic-4-door-seda... [3]https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1695221/heres-how-rust-affects-crash-test-performance-used-cars/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1695221/heres-how-rust-affect...
ryandrake 3y ago
You don't even have to go as ancient as a 20+ year old car. A 5 year old car will be just as reliable as a new car and cheaper. I've always owned used cars. It may just be my upbringing, but I was always told only rich people or stupid people who don't know what "depreciation" means buy new cars. I mean, I'm glad there are people out there buying new cars: They're eating the depreciation and supplying the second-hand market.

pcurve 3y ago

Me too. Most XF30 LS430 are still amazing condition, and I consider it to be the last LS with original Lexus DNA.

hgsgm 3y ago

Civics are amazing cars.

qbasic_forever 3y ago
They're nice but they are designed to a cheaper consumer price point. The LS400 and top end luxury cars of 30 years ago were designed to be ultra smooth and comfortable. The LS400 had to be able to drive at 100mph+ on the autobahn without any vibration or noise from the engine felt in the cabin--it was an actual design requirement from the head of the company. If you've kept up on maintenance an old luxury car like that will drive just as smooth and comfortably as when new, and way more smooth than a new economy car.

kipchak 3y ago

My only concern with a car that old is crash safety, otherwise I think they're phenominal. Here's for example a 2nd gen LS400 and a new Civic IIHS tests[1]. There's some better photos on the IIHS' website, and actual measurements.[2] Rust can also impact the car's structural integrity and crash worthiness over the years.[3] [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDYbIFxJrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDYbIFxJrM [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSEKzv166Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSEKzv166Q [2]https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/ls-4-door-sedan/1997 https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/ls-4-door-sedan/1... [2]https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/Honda/civic-4-door-sedan/2022 https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/Honda/civic-4-door-seda... [3]https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1695221/heres-how-rust-affects-crash-test-performance-used-cars/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1695221/heres-how-rust-affect...

ryandrake 3y ago

You don't even have to go as ancient as a 20+ year old car. A 5 year old car will be just as reliable as a new car and cheaper. I've always owned used cars. It may just be my upbringing, but I was always told only rich people or stupid people who don't know what "depreciation" means buy new cars. I mean, I'm glad there are people out there buying new cars: They're eating the depreciation and supplying the second-hand market.