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That sub is +95% made up posts though. Like frustrated fanfiction + attention seeking at the same time. Maybe there is some truth to this post but there are so

That sub is +95% made up posts though. Like frustrated fanfiction + attention seeking at the same time. Maybe there is some truth to this post but there are so many fake stories and made up iMessage conversations posted there that it's hard to take anything seriously anymore.

phantomathkg 3y ago
Maybe it is up to JPMorgan Chase and the manufacturer come out to "clarify"?
sledgehammers 3y ago
Surveillance and monopolies are out of control regardless of whatever content is in a subreddit.
- KyeRussell 3y ago
  Okay, but “Surveillance and monopolies are out of control” isn’t what are talking about. Some kid’s complaint about The Man is not HN-worthy. And that’s all that you’re posing.
  - sledgehammers 3y ago
    I hear you, though you don't get to decide what's HN-worthy and what's not. I guess my brain felt compelled to remind about the important underlying message of the post, because the comment felt like it was undermining it. The main motivation is probably fear of a shitty dystopian future, because I cannot remember the last time I read any positive news.
luma 3y ago
Business Insider ran essentially the same story last year: https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-employees-describe-fear-mass-workplace-data-surveillance-wadu-2022-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-employees-des... If you Google "JPM WADU" you'll find communications to employees about the system: https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmc/jpmorgan-chase-and-co/documents/suppliers-documents/systems-monitoring.pdf https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmc/jpmorgan-chas... Job listings: https://www.disabledperson.com/jobs/33566500-wadu-tech-and-tools-stream-lead-vice-president https://www.disabledperson.com/jobs/33566500-wadu-tech-and-t... Even patent filings: https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/patents/patent/US-7668849-B1 https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/patents/patent/US-7668849-... This isn't "made up" and it's easily verified with a couple seconds of google.
- ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
  Excellent summary. Also this: https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-is-tracking-zoom-calls-workplace-activity-using-wadu-2022-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-is-tracking-z...
- nextlevelwizard 3y ago
  In your own links I couldn't find anything about constant audio and video recording, body language, stress, whatever monitoring. Just presence, email, call, and some data monitoring. Just because some parts are true doesn't mean it wasn't embellished. Point about the *made up* stuff is that the subreddit in question has a lot of questionable content and straight up lies. Whole point of the subreddit in question is to pain capitalism and every employer as the devil just reaping money out of mistreating their employees.
- Aunche 3y ago
  This sounds like standard tracking that every financial institution does for compliance purposes.
  - rationalist 3y ago
    If it's standard, what other companies are using the same invasive technologies? If it's for compliance, where are the written rules saying they have to use these invasive technologies?
    - Aunche 3y ago
      By invasive technologies, do you mean what is alleged on the Reddit post? My point is that the Business Insider article isn't evidence of this. The article refers to standard monitoring that every financial institution uses to catch financial crime.
- mrobins 3y ago
  The tool and department seem real but it’s possible the Reddit post is heavily exaggerated. JPMC has thousands of managers. If all of them have access to the strangest/most invasive aspects of the tool described it wouldn’t be a secret. It would also be a great way to create a toxic culture.
uhtred 3y ago
> That sub is +95% made up posts though. Like frustrated fanfiction + attention seeking at the same time. Isn't that just reddit in general?
- sh4rks 3y ago
  Yes, reddit should honestly just be blacklisted from HN
- unpopularopp 3y ago
  Depends on the sub. Personal anecdote subs are the same yes, and not surprisingly they are very popular. There is a reason subs like /r/thathappened exist. But there are good ones too imo that I follow, usually the more on-topic ones like /r/buildapc, /r/datahoarder, /r/networking, main sport sub like /r/soccer or /r/baseball.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  95% made up, propaganda, or advertising for celebrity/product/brand/sports league/etc.
aerhardt 3y ago
Maybe add a little bit of foreign propaganda and psyops to the mix, too.
saos 3y ago
Yeah I’m thinking it can’t be true to the extent they’ve posted lol.
za3faran 3y ago
One would wonder who or what entity is behind such posts and what agenda are they trying to push.

phantomathkg 3y ago

Maybe it is up to JPMorgan Chase and the manufacturer come out to "clarify"?

sledgehammers 3y ago

Surveillance and monopolies are out of control regardless of whatever content is in a subreddit.

KyeRussell 3y ago
Okay, but “Surveillance and monopolies are out of control” isn’t what are talking about. Some kid’s complaint about The Man is not HN-worthy. And that’s all that you’re posing.
- sledgehammers 3y ago
  I hear you, though you don't get to decide what's HN-worthy and what's not. I guess my brain felt compelled to remind about the important underlying message of the post, because the comment felt like it was undermining it. The main motivation is probably fear of a shitty dystopian future, because I cannot remember the last time I read any positive news.

luma 3y ago

Business Insider ran essentially the same story last year: https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-employees-describe-fear-mass-workplace-data-surveillance-wadu-2022-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-employees-des... If you Google "JPM WADU" you'll find communications to employees about the system: https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmc/jpmorgan-chase-and-co/documents/suppliers-documents/systems-monitoring.pdf https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmc/jpmorgan-chas... Job listings: https://www.disabledperson.com/jobs/33566500-wadu-tech-and-tools-stream-lead-vice-president https://www.disabledperson.com/jobs/33566500-wadu-tech-and-t... Even patent filings: https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/patents/patent/US-7668849-B1 https://portal.unifiedpatents.com/patents/patent/US-7668849-... This isn't "made up" and it's easily verified with a couple seconds of google.

ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
Excellent summary. Also this: https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-is-tracking-zoom-calls-workplace-activity-using-wadu-2022-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-is-tracking-z...
nextlevelwizard 3y ago
In your own links I couldn't find anything about constant audio and video recording, body language, stress, whatever monitoring. Just presence, email, call, and some data monitoring. Just because some parts are true doesn't mean it wasn't embellished. Point about the *made up* stuff is that the subreddit in question has a lot of questionable content and straight up lies. Whole point of the subreddit in question is to pain capitalism and every employer as the devil just reaping money out of mistreating their employees.
Aunche 3y ago
This sounds like standard tracking that every financial institution does for compliance purposes.
- rationalist 3y ago
  If it's standard, what other companies are using the same invasive technologies? If it's for compliance, where are the written rules saying they have to use these invasive technologies?
  - Aunche 3y ago
    By invasive technologies, do you mean what is alleged on the Reddit post? My point is that the Business Insider article isn't evidence of this. The article refers to standard monitoring that every financial institution uses to catch financial crime.
mrobins 3y ago
The tool and department seem real but it’s possible the Reddit post is heavily exaggerated. JPMC has thousands of managers. If all of them have access to the strangest/most invasive aspects of the tool described it wouldn’t be a secret. It would also be a great way to create a toxic culture.

uhtred 3y ago

> That sub is +95% made up posts though. Like frustrated fanfiction + attention seeking at the same time. Isn't that just reddit in general?

sh4rks 3y ago
Yes, reddit should honestly just be blacklisted from HN
unpopularopp 3y ago
Depends on the sub. Personal anecdote subs are the same yes, and not surprisingly they are very popular. There is a reason subs like /r/thathappened exist. But there are good ones too imo that I follow, usually the more on-topic ones like /r/buildapc, /r/datahoarder, /r/networking, main sport sub like /r/soccer or /r/baseball.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
95% made up, propaganda, or advertising for celebrity/product/brand/sports league/etc.

aerhardt 3y ago

Maybe add a little bit of foreign propaganda and psyops to the mix, too.

saos 3y ago

Yeah I’m thinking it can’t be true to the extent they’ve posted lol.

za3faran 3y ago

One would wonder who or what entity is behind such posts and what agenda are they trying to push.