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But do we need to do everything in your shell window? I made an alias to be able to show pictures from my kitty terminal...and almost never use it. I have a pho

But do we need to do everything in your shell window? I made an alias to be able to show pictures from my kitty terminal...and almost never use it. I have a photo viewer on my laptop, why would I use the terminal for that? If I want to show a single picture, it doesn't take longer to type eog <filename> [1] than my alias (icat), if I need to see thumbnails of more than one, it doesn't take longer to open my file manager. If the file is remote, the directory is mounted easily from my file manager or the command line. [1] eye of gnome in my case

wkat4242 4y ago
I use the terminal a LOT. Makes sense to do it there. Especially because it works over SSH, it's a lot simpler than X Forwarding (especially since that is broken by wayland).
- prmoustache 4y ago
  I am also working a lot with terminal but sometimes there are simply better tools for the job. Re: ssh but how about just mounting with ssh when media files are expected? If you want to play a sound file, you still have to find a way to transport audio anyway. It is just so much more convenient to mount the directory using sshfs or your file manager. I guess most people who are afraid to get out of the terminal are those that are stuck with terrible window managers from macOS or Windows and don't know how to easily switch focus from one window to another and back in a pinch without using their mouse.
  - wkat4242 4y ago
    Lol I've never heard about people being afraid to get out of the terminal. In, yes :) Especially Windows and Mac users find the terminal (and the registry) very scary in my experience. I've even seen legit IT people that are super scared of changing values in the registry or plist/defaults on Mac. Though Windows admins are getting more used to it again now that MS is pushing PowerShell as a management tool so heavily (which makes sense, it's much easier to manage infrastructure as code) I use both GUI and Terminal yes (KDE though because I hate Gnome's opinionated design :). I can control it fully with the keyboard but on a remote system I'd still prefer to do things inside the ssh session. Usually because I've jumped through different systems and forwarding it the whole way is a PITA. I never really use sshfs for this reason. In fact no I rarely need to view pics either, it's just not really one of the things I would do on remote systems. But it's nice to have the ability if the need does arise.
kragen 4y ago
take a look at how people use jupyter with graphics and sound integrated into their repl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_FfWK6J2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_FfWK6J2w it'd be nice to have that when i'm sshing to a remote machine but without jupyter's janky scrolling
- joouha 4y ago
  You can get most of the way there with euporie: https://github.com/joouha/euporie https://github.com/joouha/euporie I don't support audio yet, but it should be possible using DECPS escape sequences
  - kragen 4y ago
    neat! glad to see it supports kitty's inline image interface what do you think of the prospects for supporting smooth animation or mouse interaction with data visualizations? e.g., brushing or interactive rotation in 3d. in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951674 i was claiming that that isn't feasible within the constraints of extended vt100 emulation, but i'd love to be proven wrong i'm also curious how kitty's protocol deals with unexpected output from a background process interleaved in the middle of an image
    - joouha 3y ago
      I've been doing some experimentation with this you might like to see: https://blog.josiah.link/o/07dffc4ade3246f3a8edf6d7d5917b0c https://blog.josiah.link/o/07dffc4ade3246f3a8edf6d7d5917b0c

wkat4242 4y ago

I use the terminal a LOT. Makes sense to do it there. Especially because it works over SSH, it's a lot simpler than X Forwarding (especially since that is broken by wayland).

prmoustache 4y ago
I am also working a lot with terminal but sometimes there are simply better tools for the job. Re: ssh but how about just mounting with ssh when media files are expected? If you want to play a sound file, you still have to find a way to transport audio anyway. It is just so much more convenient to mount the directory using sshfs or your file manager. I guess most people who are afraid to get out of the terminal are those that are stuck with terrible window managers from macOS or Windows and don't know how to easily switch focus from one window to another and back in a pinch without using their mouse.
- wkat4242 4y ago
  Lol I've never heard about people being afraid to get out of the terminal. In, yes :) Especially Windows and Mac users find the terminal (and the registry) very scary in my experience. I've even seen legit IT people that are super scared of changing values in the registry or plist/defaults on Mac. Though Windows admins are getting more used to it again now that MS is pushing PowerShell as a management tool so heavily (which makes sense, it's much easier to manage infrastructure as code) I use both GUI and Terminal yes (KDE though because I hate Gnome's opinionated design :). I can control it fully with the keyboard but on a remote system I'd still prefer to do things inside the ssh session. Usually because I've jumped through different systems and forwarding it the whole way is a PITA. I never really use sshfs for this reason. In fact no I rarely need to view pics either, it's just not really one of the things I would do on remote systems. But it's nice to have the ability if the need does arise.

kragen 4y ago

take a look at how people use jupyter with graphics and sound integrated into their repl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_FfWK6J2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_FfWK6J2w it'd be nice to have that when i'm sshing to a remote machine but without jupyter's janky scrolling

joouha 4y ago
You can get most of the way there with euporie: https://github.com/joouha/euporie https://github.com/joouha/euporie I don't support audio yet, but it should be possible using DECPS escape sequences
- kragen 4y ago
  neat! glad to see it supports kitty's inline image interface what do you think of the prospects for supporting smooth animation or mouse interaction with data visualizations? e.g., brushing or interactive rotation in 3d. in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951674 i was claiming that that isn't feasible within the constraints of extended vt100 emulation, but i'd love to be proven wrong i'm also curious how kitty's protocol deals with unexpected output from a background process interleaved in the middle of an image
  - joouha 3y ago
    I've been doing some experimentation with this you might like to see: https://blog.josiah.link/o/07dffc4ade3246f3a8edf6d7d5917b0c https://blog.josiah.link/o/07dffc4ade3246f3a8edf6d7d5917b0c