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I disagree with point 3 there. A well taught arts education requires you to use critical reasoning to make sure what you are writing or arguing for can be suppo

I disagree with point 3 there. A well taught arts education requires you to use critical reasoning to make sure what you are writing or arguing for can be supported by sound arguments. Maybe you have some experience with some institution or department where there were individuals who only accepted work from their students that argued for the views that agreed with, but this not my experience at all.

FredPret 3y ago
Then most liberal arts educations are not well-taught. Look at the uniform political slant of everything coming out of the liberal arts sphere in the past 50+ years. There's a ton of value in a good liberal arts education, but I agree with anonylizard that this is not something that can be taught en masse.
- emodendroket 3y ago
  I am not sure I see a "uniform political slant." People in the many fields that comprise liberal arts find many things to disagree with each other about, sometimes quite vehemently.
  - ggm 3y ago
    I've got to say the thread which leads here confirms my original comment, your remarks aside.
  - FredPret 3y ago
    You're either not serious or you're so deep in the bubble you can't see the edges. Close to 100% of liberal arts teaching staff are Democrats [1] [2] [3]. It didn't use to be this way [4] [5]. [1] https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-are-teachers-mostly-liberal/ https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-are-teachers-mostly-libe... [2] https://www.thecollegefix.com/zero-republican-professors/ https://www.thecollegefix.com/zero-republican-professors/ [3] https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/partisan-registration-and-contributions-of-faculty-in-flagship-colleges https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/partisan-registration-and-... [4] https://nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-disappearing-conservative-professor https://nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-disappea... [5] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/ju...
    - VampireDentist 3y ago
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        emodendroket 3y ago
        Republicans have made hostility to universities, or at least the non-engineering parts of them, a plank for as long I can remember. Recently, Ron DeSantis led a high-profile effort to take over the New College as part of his audition for President. Like everyone else, professors are capable of understanding that they have interests aligned with different political positions.
    - emodendroket 3y ago
      It would be surprising if educated people supported a party mostly hostile to the existence of their jobs. That still leaves a lot of room for differing political beliefs since there are not only two possible political positions.

FredPret 3y ago

Then most liberal arts educations are not well-taught. Look at the uniform political slant of everything coming out of the liberal arts sphere in the past 50+ years. There's a ton of value in a good liberal arts education, but I agree with anonylizard that this is not something that can be taught en masse.

emodendroket 3y ago
I am not sure I see a "uniform political slant." People in the many fields that comprise liberal arts find many things to disagree with each other about, sometimes quite vehemently.
- ggm 3y ago
  I've got to say the thread which leads here confirms my original comment, your remarks aside.
- FredPret 3y ago
  You're either not serious or you're so deep in the bubble you can't see the edges. Close to 100% of liberal arts teaching staff are Democrats [1] [2] [3]. It didn't use to be this way [4] [5]. [1] https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-are-teachers-mostly-liberal/ https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-are-teachers-mostly-libe... [2] https://www.thecollegefix.com/zero-republican-professors/ https://www.thecollegefix.com/zero-republican-professors/ [3] https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/partisan-registration-and-contributions-of-faculty-in-flagship-colleges https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/partisan-registration-and-... [4] https://nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-disappearing-conservative-professor https://nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-disappea... [5] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/ju...
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      - emodendroket 3y ago
        Republicans have made hostility to universities, or at least the non-engineering parts of them, a plank for as long I can remember. Recently, Ron DeSantis led a high-profile effort to take over the New College as part of his audition for President. Like everyone else, professors are capable of understanding that they have interests aligned with different political positions.
  - emodendroket 3y ago
    It would be surprising if educated people supported a party mostly hostile to the existence of their jobs. That still leaves a lot of room for differing political beliefs since there are not only two possible political positions.