I think he meant that they don’t follow typical design guidelines for graphical user interfaces on a computer. Which they don’t — outside DAWs (and maybe some i

I think he meant that they don’t follow typical design guidelines for graphical user interfaces on a computer. Which they don’t — outside DAWs (and maybe some image editors?), I’ve never seen a GUI arranged like a channel strip, where controls are stacked on top of each other but not necessarily arranged in a perfect grid. A set of controls like e.g. [0] in Ableton is highly non-standard, compared to the kinds of layouts most GUI toolkits provide. [0] https://rekkerd.org/img/201210/ableton_live9.png https://rekkerd.org/img/201210/ableton_live9.png