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The last time we were given "tax reform" it was mainly about cutting rates for the wealthy rather than streamline and modernize how taxes are handled (the IRS b

The last time we were given "tax reform" it was mainly about cutting rates for the wealthy rather than streamline and modernize how taxes are handled (the IRS budget has been constrained and prevents them doing anything other than barely function, which is a not an accident). https://www.policygenius.com/taxes/who-benefited-most-from-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act/ https://www.policygenius.com/taxes/who-benefited-most-from-t...

refurb 3y ago
"Middle-class Americans saw mixed results as most of the benefits accrued to the highest earners." I mean, yeah? 42% of Americans pay no federal income tax, how could tax reform benefit them unless it's handing out cash? Which we already do with EITC. And the complexities and burden of the tax system go way, way back before Trump's tax reform. Think more like anything passed since the 1950's.
- pstuart 3y ago
  > You don't need Grover to make US taxes overly complex and burdensome. Just look at some of the tax bills Democrats have sponsored You went out of your way to make this about partisan finger-pointing and I merely countered that there's plenty of blame to share. Way to deflect and spin! Partisan politics is why the subject is so rancorous. I have no party affiliation and am happy to acknowledge and criticize the one that I am most sympathetic too. This is why we can't have nice things -- because we can't talk about policy and and government reform without it becoming a pissing match.
  - refurb 3y ago
    I did nothing of the such, I simply countered your argument. You said "The last time we were given "tax reform"", which implies this is a recent issue. I countered with "look at some of the tax bills Democrats have sponsored", clearly showing it's NOT a partisan issue, both parties are doing it, and have been doing it for decades. The original comment blamed Grover, so in fact you're replying to a chain of comments that were already partisan, so I reply with a comment about politics and you somehow blame me for making it partisan. Fun!

refurb 3y ago

"Middle-class Americans saw mixed results as most of the benefits accrued to the highest earners." I mean, yeah? 42% of Americans pay no federal income tax, how could tax reform benefit them unless it's handing out cash? Which we already do with EITC. And the complexities and burden of the tax system go way, way back before Trump's tax reform. Think more like anything passed since the 1950's.

pstuart 3y ago
> You don't need Grover to make US taxes overly complex and burdensome. Just look at some of the tax bills Democrats have sponsored You went out of your way to make this about partisan finger-pointing and I merely countered that there's plenty of blame to share. Way to deflect and spin! Partisan politics is why the subject is so rancorous. I have no party affiliation and am happy to acknowledge and criticize the one that I am most sympathetic too. This is why we can't have nice things -- because we can't talk about policy and and government reform without it becoming a pissing match.
- refurb 3y ago
  I did nothing of the such, I simply countered your argument. You said "The last time we were given "tax reform"", which implies this is a recent issue. I countered with "look at some of the tax bills Democrats have sponsored", clearly showing it's NOT a partisan issue, both parties are doing it, and have been doing it for decades. The original comment blamed Grover, so in fact you're replying to a chain of comments that were already partisan, so I reply with a comment about politics and you somehow blame me for making it partisan. Fun!