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Please provide a reference to the research discovering that wildfires are a necessarily “bad thing” in deserts across bio-geologic timescales.
by jakear 3y ago
Please provide a reference to the research discovering that wildfires are a necessarily “bad thing” in deserts across bio-geologic timescales.
- ses1984 3y agoIf a fire burns down your house, it's ok because it doesn't matter on bio-geologic timescales, right? You're the one bringing the idea of bio-geologic timescales to an issue that is having an impact right now.
- jakear 3y agoYes, my house matters not at all, on any timescale. Even less because I’m homeless.
- seattle_spring 3y agoThe onus is, without a doubt, on you to provide research supporting your initial claims here.
- jakear 3y agoWhich claim do you consider unsubstantiated?
- 1attice 3y agoHN comments section will be the death of me. There could be an asteroid impact and someone would be jocularly arguing that asteroids are neither good nor bad, and that being sad about it is woke nonsense, and that the asteroid is winning in the marketplace of ideas, or is full of iridium or some other valued metal, and is therefore a net boon to human populations in several million years (if any) who could, after all, make cool swords out of its ore. The absolute dissociation from anything like a tender, ecologically connected mindset is laughable until you remember that the people speaking are all mostly making six figures and are, for better or worse, our generation's elite. This plant is choking out whole ecosystems. Yes, there are (mathematical!) measures of genetic diversity; they are trending down; this is bad because it destabilizes the food web. Remember food? You like food, right? This is bad for the food.
- jakear 3y ago> Yes, there are (mathematical!) measures of genetic diversity; they are trending down Mathematical models of natural behaviors are, without exception, time-local. The net benefit on any timescales that actually matter have yet to be seen. > Remember food? You like food, right? This is bad for the food. Maybe I’ll starve. Maybe all of humanity will starve. Only one thing is certain: something else will come along to fill our niche.
- mda 3y agoI would love to see your update to this comment after you and your family starves for a while and waiting for something to fill your niche.
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- seattle_spring 3y ago<comment removed - other person not at all worth engaging>
- jakear 3y ago[flagged]
- 1attice 3y ago> <comment removed - other person not at all worth engaging> Wise human. I made the same decision. HN Comments section is endlessly frustrating, but is also, as my meditation coach always used to say, the perfect teacher. Sometimes an argument is won, but the interlocutor fails to notice. In these cases, no matter how frustrating, the argument is still won. While tempting, nothing is gained by explaining to them the interlocutor that they've lost; the not-noticing is itself the unfakeable signal of the fact. This orange hellsite is a masterclass in discourse and rhetoric, and knowing when to rest your case turns out to be a huge tranche of these arts.