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> Not all countries are democracies. Turkey is. Turkey is in the middle of elections right now. > You don’t know what is in someone’s heart or mind. Sure I d
by clouddrover 3y ago
> Not all countries are democracies.
Turkey is. Turkey is in the middle of elections right now.
> You don’t know what is in someone’s heart or mind.
Sure I do. The best way is to judge them by their actions. Musk's own actions are the proof of it.
- andsoitis 3y agoThere’s an interesting point of view that Turkey is an autocracy behind a democratic facade: https://www.civicus.org/index.php/re-imagining-democracy/stories-from-the-frontlines/3529-autocracy-behind-a-democratic-facade-the-political-regime-in-turkey https://www.civicus.org/index.php/re-imagining-democracy/sto...
- clouddrover 3y agoAh, so you're saying that's all the more reason not to capitulate to Turkey's censorship demands in order to help improve the quality of Turkey's democracy. Wikipedia stood up for itself: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50918724 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50918724 Too bad Musk doesn't share those free speech principles.
- andsoitis 3y agoThe Wikipedia case was in 2019, wasn’t it? Things aren’t the same as it was 4 years ago.
- andsoitis 3y ago> Wikipedia stood up for itself I believe Wikipedia was also blocked for 2 years (2017 — 2019), according to that BBC article. So I think the question in front of one is: is it better to be shut off (with no guarantee that you will be able to operate there again), or do you stand firm on principles. In the case of Wikipedia, at least the Turkish Supreme Court sided with them, but if one looks at the trend of diminishing civil and political liberty in Turkey, I think that was partly luck. Even though Turkey has elections, it is not considered a free society by Freedom House: https://freedomhouse.org/country/turkey/freedom-world/2021 https://freedomhouse.org/country/turkey/freedom-world/2021