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It's funny, flu shots can make you feel sick. That's your body reacting and your immune system adjusting. But compared to actually getting the flu, you get to

It's funny, flu shots can make you feel sick. That's your body reacting and your immune system adjusting. But compared to actually getting the flu, you get to skip the part where the disease eats at your organs and rips through your body destroying things. So yes, you may feel sick after a flu shot. But I consider the alternative makes it worthwhile.

JohnFen 3y ago
The shot may not be technically as bad as the flu, but for me, it's plenty bad. I'm bedridden for about a week after them. Since it's been a couple of decades since I've had the flu, the shot isn't worth the cost to me in burned PTO if nothing else. But perhaps the mRNA one they're testing would be different. I'm also aware that it's probably not the vaccine itself that is causing my symptoms, but other ingredients and different formulations are available that I'm likely to tolerate better. I just haven't actually tried them yet.
NovaDudely 3y ago
I was about to say, one of the big things we are learning is that what we see as merely a respiratory disease is actually a much more generalized attack. This is why we are seeing things like a 40% reduced risk of Alzheimer if you get yearly flu shots. Short term you can feel bad from the shot but long term you are much resilient to the actual Flu's impacts. It looks like this could be the same with Covid. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/flu-vaccines-linked-to-40-reduced-risk-of-alzheimers-disease https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/flu-vaccines-linke...
- rubicon33 3y ago
  The ONLY thing you should take away from this link is the following: > More research is needed to understand the biological mechanisms behind the results in this study. For example, it is possible that people who are getting vaccinated also take better care of their health in other ways, and these things add up to a lower risk of Alzheimer’s and other dementias.
  - NovaDudely 3y ago
    That is true to some degree. But I just picked the first thing that I could find related to that search. But on going research is starting to point towards the possibility that these repository illnesses are doing more long term damage, especially to other organs and the brain. That said this is still very early days and it could just be something that looks promising at first but could be nothing. The paths being explored does seem plausible. More research and data is needed. Reminded of Alzheimer's being linked to Aluminum, looks promising at 1st but turned into nothing.
- landemva 3y ago
  Following link to Journal summary; 'and≥65 years old by the start of follow-up.' This is interesting and may warrant actual studies beyond lookback data mining.
laweijfmvo 3y ago
Does a particularly bad reaction to a flu shot correlate with an equally bad case of flu, had you not gotten the shot? Or is it just random?
Auracle 3y ago
Right, but the flu shot is generally far from 100% effective: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates... Compound that with the fact many adults don’t actually get the flu that often and it’s not exactly a sure choice for most. I have a terrible immune system and I’ve gotten the flu once as a teen/adult and I’m nearly 35. Apparently the average is 1-2 times a decade. A more effective, longer lasting vaccine would make it a lot more palatable for people.

JohnFen 3y ago

The shot may not be technically as bad as the flu, but for me, it's plenty bad. I'm bedridden for about a week after them. Since it's been a couple of decades since I've had the flu, the shot isn't worth the cost to me in burned PTO if nothing else. But perhaps the mRNA one they're testing would be different. I'm also aware that it's probably not the vaccine itself that is causing my symptoms, but other ingredients and different formulations are available that I'm likely to tolerate better. I just haven't actually tried them yet.

NovaDudely 3y ago

I was about to say, one of the big things we are learning is that what we see as merely a respiratory disease is actually a much more generalized attack. This is why we are seeing things like a 40% reduced risk of Alzheimer if you get yearly flu shots. Short term you can feel bad from the shot but long term you are much resilient to the actual Flu's impacts. It looks like this could be the same with Covid. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/flu-vaccines-linked-to-40-reduced-risk-of-alzheimers-disease https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/flu-vaccines-linke...

rubicon33 3y ago
The ONLY thing you should take away from this link is the following: > More research is needed to understand the biological mechanisms behind the results in this study. For example, it is possible that people who are getting vaccinated also take better care of their health in other ways, and these things add up to a lower risk of Alzheimer’s and other dementias.
- NovaDudely 3y ago
  That is true to some degree. But I just picked the first thing that I could find related to that search. But on going research is starting to point towards the possibility that these repository illnesses are doing more long term damage, especially to other organs and the brain. That said this is still very early days and it could just be something that looks promising at first but could be nothing. The paths being explored does seem plausible. More research and data is needed. Reminded of Alzheimer's being linked to Aluminum, looks promising at 1st but turned into nothing.
landemva 3y ago
Following link to Journal summary; 'and≥65 years old by the start of follow-up.' This is interesting and may warrant actual studies beyond lookback data mining.

laweijfmvo 3y ago

Does a particularly bad reaction to a flu shot correlate with an equally bad case of flu, had you not gotten the shot? Or is it just random?

Auracle 3y ago

Right, but the flu shot is generally far from 100% effective: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates... Compound that with the fact many adults don’t actually get the flu that often and it’s not exactly a sure choice for most. I have a terrible immune system and I’ve gotten the flu once as a teen/adult and I’m nearly 35. Apparently the average is 1-2 times a decade. A more effective, longer lasting vaccine would make it a lot more palatable for people.