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Argentinian here. The solution is to absolutely destroy peronism and whatever comes close to (proteccionism, false socialism, control on every fucking thing ima

Argentinian here. The solution is to absolutely destroy peronism and whatever comes close to (proteccionism, false socialism, control on every fucking thing imaginable, blatant populism), it corrupts everything it touches, it rots all foundations, every solution to a problem, even if it's been proven to work 100% everywhere, if you add peronism it will make it not work, how? You wouldn't understand, you have to be an argentinian to get it. Somehow these pieces of shit (sorry I don't know another way to call them) break all they touch, they think they're the true solution but the have been in the government for the past 70+ years... You want a solution? Free market (even a simple notebook, nothing fancy, costs a fortune), control nothing, destroy all the stupid fucking taxes we have that once were "temporary" and here we are still having to pay them, let people improve their businesses (as of today, if you want to import machinery you have to pay an absurd amount, which leads to small businesses stuck).

gtirloni 3y ago
Wasn't that what Macri set to do?
- AbraKdabra 3y ago
  Yes, and he did shit, I voted for him. We call him "tibio" as in warm, he was supposed to bring balance (yeah I said that) by going full nuclear with his politics and instead he did "warm" stuff, we were expecting (we wanted it, we needed it) a complete shock in our country, our economy, our lifestyle (for example, kill every protest which causes a transit chaos every fucking day in the city, it was his promise and did nothing) and he just scratched his balls. He did improve some things tough, but not on the level we needed.
  - kwanbix 3y ago
    Yeah, as much as I would have liked for him to take the infantry to the streets, how many of us would have stand 1~6 months of the peronists in the street burning things, etc, etc, etc?
robomartin 3y ago
> You want a solution? Free market Desgraciadamente Argentina, un país hermoso, con gente maravillosa, ha estado en manos de poderosas fuerzas políticas que han destrozado el país a través de décadas de afanar, subyugar y controlar. Lo único que les importa a esos reverendos HDP's es mantener el poder. Y ahora le están vendiendo el país a China. Genial la idea. No? Interesting that there's a thread about problems in Argentina. I posted something about this on another conversation earlier today. It was violently and mercilessly downvoted and flagged, which is normal for HN. Why? Because leftists in the US don't want to hear the truth about the garbage they have come to believe through indoctrination. Not sure you can still read it, here's the link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951446 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951446 People in the US are so ignorant about history of other countries, and, in particular, Latin America, that they are solidly marching in a direction to make all the mistakes history has proven to destructive to societies. Schools, universities, in the US are teaching hatred of free market concepts. They are indoctrinating kids into actually believing things that have been proven, time and time again, to be destructive to society. These are the kinds of things have have been happening in places like Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Ecuador, Colombia and nearly every country in Latin America for decades. In fact, I tell my friends that places like Argentina are like a time machine for the US. If you study what happened there at various times it is impossible not to draw parallels to what has been happening here for a decade or two. As I mentioned in my the post linked above (flagged, so I don't know if anyone can read it), my parents had business in Argentina and so I lived there a number of years when I was a teenager. I saw the transition into the military regime and everything that went with it. I also say in that post that if you actually ask people who have lived in such countries how they feel, the last thing they are going to say is that big government control of everything, high taxes and all the crap being pushed here in the US are things they enjoyed. What you will typically hear is exactly what you said: Free market is the best thing for any society.

gtirloni 3y ago

Wasn't that what Macri set to do?

AbraKdabra 3y ago
Yes, and he did shit, I voted for him. We call him "tibio" as in warm, he was supposed to bring balance (yeah I said that) by going full nuclear with his politics and instead he did "warm" stuff, we were expecting (we wanted it, we needed it) a complete shock in our country, our economy, our lifestyle (for example, kill every protest which causes a transit chaos every fucking day in the city, it was his promise and did nothing) and he just scratched his balls. He did improve some things tough, but not on the level we needed.
- kwanbix 3y ago
  Yeah, as much as I would have liked for him to take the infantry to the streets, how many of us would have stand 1~6 months of the peronists in the street burning things, etc, etc, etc?

robomartin 3y ago

> You want a solution? Free market Desgraciadamente Argentina, un país hermoso, con gente maravillosa, ha estado en manos de poderosas fuerzas políticas que han destrozado el país a través de décadas de afanar, subyugar y controlar. Lo único que les importa a esos reverendos HDP's es mantener el poder. Y ahora le están vendiendo el país a China. Genial la idea. No? Interesting that there's a thread about problems in Argentina. I posted something about this on another conversation earlier today. It was violently and mercilessly downvoted and flagged, which is normal for HN. Why? Because leftists in the US don't want to hear the truth about the garbage they have come to believe through indoctrination. Not sure you can still read it, here's the link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951446 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35951446 People in the US are so ignorant about history of other countries, and, in particular, Latin America, that they are solidly marching in a direction to make all the mistakes history has proven to destructive to societies. Schools, universities, in the US are teaching hatred of free market concepts. They are indoctrinating kids into actually believing things that have been proven, time and time again, to be destructive to society. These are the kinds of things have have been happening in places like Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Ecuador, Colombia and nearly every country in Latin America for decades. In fact, I tell my friends that places like Argentina are like a time machine for the US. If you study what happened there at various times it is impossible not to draw parallels to what has been happening here for a decade or two. As I mentioned in my the post linked above (flagged, so I don't know if anyone can read it), my parents had business in Argentina and so I lived there a number of years when I was a teenager. I saw the transition into the military regime and everything that went with it. I also say in that post that if you actually ask people who have lived in such countries how they feel, the last thing they are going to say is that big government control of everything, high taxes and all the crap being pushed here in the US are things they enjoyed. What you will typically hear is exactly what you said: Free market is the best thing for any society.